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  1. Posts : 16
    Windows 7
       #1

    Upgrade Windows 7 to Windows 10 questions


    I'm preparing to upgrade my Windows 7 Pro 64 bit to Windows 10. I'm not that well versed in computer work, so I'd appreciate some advice. I've already been pointed toward the upgrade procedure that's posted in the forum. I have a couple of questions as I begin the procedure...

    - I know I'll need to create a backup for my existing program before I start. I gather I need a USB stick to store my Windows 7 information. I've located some directions online that I think will guide me through the process of creating a backup, but I have one question......How big a storage device do I need? I don't store all my photos in the computer as I utilize cloud storage for most of them and I can reduce my document storage substantially from where it is now and recover most of the content from online after the transfer to Windows 10 is complete. I do have a Mailbird email account that I'd like to store and transfer. I have an existing USB adaptor that lets me transfer pictures from my camera to the computer which is 32 GB. Is that big enough to store my Windows 7 backup? If the 32 GB isn't adequate, can you recommend what size of USB storage I'll need?

    - Also, in reading some of the posts that follow the Windows7 to Windows 10 tutorial, I saw a comment that indicated someone was having trouble with the computer running slow and getting blue screen incidents, and the recommendation was to do the transfer using the program from a media disc or USB. Do I need to do this, or can I work directly from the program download online? If I do need USB storage for that, how big do I need?

    Sorry if my questions are very elementary, but I'm doing this sort of process for the first time. I'll say thanks in advance for any advice offered.

    Ken
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  2. AddRAM's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 21H1
       #2

    You will need a storage device that will hold all of the used space on your OS partition and any other partitions that are used to boot the PC.

    The 1st thing you need to do for us is upload a full picture of Disk Management.

    We need to see how much of C is actually being used and any other partitions on your OS drive.

    How to Post a Screenshot of Disk Management | Tutorials (tenforums.com)

    Example
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Upgrade Windows 7 to Windows 10 questions-capture.jpg  
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  3. dalchina's Avatar
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    Win 10 Pro (1903) (2nd PC is 21H1)
       #3

    Hi, your PC Hewlett Packard Compaq 8200 Elite is from 2011, so there's a chance of some incompatibility.

    Have you ever been offered a Win 10 upgrade by Windows Update?
    If you have, then there's a lower risk of a problem. If not, then MS may have deemed your PC to potentially be incompatible.

    Before attempting an upgrade:
    a. make sure you have the latest BIOS available for your machine.
    b. uninstall any security software as this may not be compatible with Win 10.
    c. for your own sake and that of your data, just in case, create a disk image of your Windows partitions - Macrium Reflect (free) + large enough external storage for image files - perhaps 1Tb. If buying new, consider 2Tb for future proofing and it's not that much more expensive.

    Your disk image is a compressed copy of everything on your Windows partitions- think perhaps 60-70% of the size of the used part of your disk, depending on what data types you have.

    That's EVERYTHING, not just bits of programs or data. So you don't have to worry about what you haven't backed up.

    d. Check you have at least 30Gb free on C:
    e. As a matter of routine, given the age of your PC, check your disks - just in case. Get a copy of Hard Disk Sentinel (free functional trial- excellent). Run that. Check the tab for each disk. Green is good.

    Bear in mind many upgrades go smoothly: if not, diagnosing problems can be technically involved and time consuming.
    In the worst case you may end up with an unbootable PC, although this is rather unlikely. So be prepared - create a disk image as above. Endlessly recommended as a routine and regular practice by members here.

    There is a chance some program may be incompatible with Win 10- you may need an update, or find a replacement.
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  4. Posts : 16
    Windows 7
    Thread Starter
       #4

    AddRAM said:
    You will need a storage device that will hold all of the used space on your OS partition and any other partitions that are used to boot the PC.

    The 1st thing you need to do for us is upload a full picture of Disk Management.

    We need to see how much of C is actually being used and any other partitions on your OS drive.

    How to Post a Screenshot of Disk Management | Tutorials (tenforums.com)

    Example
    I'm having some difficulty because I'm working in Windows 7 and it's not the same as your tutorial. I did manage to find the disc management system but wasn't sure what's needed so I did two screenshots. I hope I've captured what's needed.

    Upgrade Windows 7 to Windows 10 questions-1st-screenshot.png

    Upgrade Windows 7 to Windows 10 questions-2nd-screenshot.png
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  5. AddRAM's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 21H1
       #5

    So if you want to make a Disk Image of your W7 drive before you attempt to update to W10, you should image the entire disk. Even though the Recovery partition will be useless.

    Use Macrium Reflect 7 free to create a disk image and store it on whatever you have.

    You have no more than 60GB of used space, and Macrium will even compress that more. But I`d use something that can hold at least that much.

    Macrium Software | Reflect Free Edition

    You are going to install Macrium on your OS drive, open it and tell it where you want to save the image.

    You posted the images just fine Good job.
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  6. dalchina's Avatar
    Posts : 32,990
    Win 10 Pro (1903) (2nd PC is 21H1)
       #6

    Noted this:
    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...9-12d8cfec59ce

    - you may or may not have the same experience.

    Please respond to my post #3 - my first question. Thanks.
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  7. AddRAM's Avatar
    Posts : 4,377
    Windows 10 Pro x64 21H1
       #7

    After you`ve successfully created a disk image of your entire drive, then just go to this web page and try to upgrade your PC to W10, just read the screen it will walk you right through it.

    Download Windows 10 (microsoft.com)

    Scroll down to where it says "Using the tool to upgrade this PC to Windows 10 (click to show more or less information)

    Read that.
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  8. Posts : 16
    Windows 7
    Thread Starter
       #8

    dalchina said:
    Hi, your PC Hewlett Packard Compaq 8200 Elite is from 2011, so there's a chance of some incompatibility.

    Have you ever been offered a Win 10 upgrade by Windows Update?
    If you have, then there's a lower risk of a problem. If not, then MS may have deemed your PC to potentially be incompatible.

    Before attempting an upgrade:
    a. make sure you have the latest BIOS available for your machine.
    b. uninstall any security software as this may not be compatible with Win 10.
    c. for your own sake and that of your data, just in case, create a disk image of your Windows partitions - Macrium Reflect (free) + large enough external storage for image files - perhaps 1Tb. If buying new, consider 2Tb for future proofing and it's not that much more expensive.

    Your disk image is a compressed copy of everything on your Windows partitions- think perhaps 60-70% of the size of the used part of your disk, depending on what data types you have.

    That's EVERYTHING, not just bits of programs or data. So you don't have to worry about what you haven't backed up.

    d. Check you have at least 30Gb free on C:
    e. As a matter of routine, given the age of your PC, check your disks - just in case. Get a copy of Hard Disk Sentinel (free functional trial- excellent). Run that. Check the tab for each disk. Green is good.

    Bear in mind many upgrades go smoothly: if not, diagnosing problems can be technically involved and time consuming.
    In the worst case you may end up with an unbootable PC, although this is rather unlikely. So be prepared - create a disk image as above. Endlessly recommended as a routine and regular practice by members here.

    There is a chance some program may be incompatible with Win 10- you may need an update, or find a replacement.
    I don't recall over having been given the option of switching to Windows 10 since I began using this computer. Originally, I bought an identical HP Compaq Elite 8200 with Windows 10 two years ago as a reconditioned unite from a local store. I couldn't deal with it (Now I realize it was the Edge browser that was the problem) so I returned it and bought the identical unit with Windows 7 reconditioned from an online dealer. I'm guessing that if the two computers are the same model, I probably am going to be okay with Windows 10.

    The only information I know how to access for this machine is:



    OS Version: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional, Service Pack 1, 64 bit, Build 7601, Installed 20120529081952.000000-420
    Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-2120 CPU @ 3.30GHz, Intel64 Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7, CPU Count: 4
    Total Physical RAM: 8 GB
    Graphics Card: Intel(R) HD Graphics
    Hard Drives: C: 224 GB (171 GB Free);
    Motherboard: Hewlett-Packard 1495, s/n 2UA2310V4Z
    System: Hewlett-Packard, ver HPQOEM - 1072009, s/n 2UA2310V4Z
    Antivirus: Avast Antivirus, Enabled and Updated

    If there's a more complete set of specs on the computer, I'm not sure how to access them.
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  9. AddRAM's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 21H1
       #9

    I would just uninstall Avast and try to update to W10. If Edge was a problem, just don`t don`t use it. Install Chrome.

    But, I don`t see why Edge was giving you problems.
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  10. dalchina's Avatar
    Posts : 32,990
    Win 10 Pro (1903) (2nd PC is 21H1)
       #10

    Thank you for your reply.

    MS attempts not to offer Win 10 to devices on which attempting to install it may cause a problem.
    Assuming Windows Update is functional on your PC that's indicative.
    Occasionally that may relate to the BIOS not being the latest, but there are much more common reasons.
    The example I posted of BSODS and that you mentioned you had seen such problems suggest caution.

    Here's what I suggest you try as an experiment:
    a. grab a suitable spare disk
    b. replace your system disk with that
    c. clean install Win 10 and see if it works.

    Do not simply attempt an upgrade without due precaution.
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