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  1. Posts : 7,724
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       #11

    Hi,
    Yeah he deleted his last reply about removing apps doesn't help
    I have a old core 2 duo with 3gb memory that would disagree lol
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  2. Posts : 1,807
    Windows 10 Pro 21H1 19043.1348
       #12

    Hi glegster

    Welcome to Ten Forums.


    If you search Tenforums.com you will eventually locate the debloating threads, they're here and other places that Google will direct you.

    I have tweaked my OS considerably, however; I have yet to attempt any of the debloater fixes. I'd truly appreciate any performance improvement stats you might gather after trying one.


    It might prove satisfying to remove this extraneous crap but I'm not yet convinced that the risk of breaking Windows verses a small performance improvement is worthwhile for the debloaters.


    This looks similar to another version I've been tempted by although I can't recommend it because I haven't tried it or researched it sufficiently.

    How to Debloat Windows 10 with Windows Debloater


    I'd have more faith in this option based on Kari's review, however; again, I can't recommend it because the same reasons above and if it potentially breaks Cortana, I'm definitely not interested.


    Windows 10 Decrapifier – Win10.Guru




    I'd suggest more effort on controlling Windows Update with a solution such as this one;

    Using CMD script and VBScript to control Windows Update

    I use the above fix on 4 PCs, 2 of my own and two others I manage.


    I do have records somewhere on a debloater that was presented here. I'll add in a link when I find it.

    Here's some other reading for you.

    Bloatware Removal Script

    Bulk Crap Uninstaller

    GitHub - Sycnex/Windows10Debloater: Script to remove Windows 10 bloatware.

    Happy adventures.
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  3. Posts : 1,767
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       #13

    I've been using csand's Windows 10 Decrapifier script for the last ~18 months (and have added my own registry and scheduled task tweaks to it) and - like Kari - am very pleased with it, particularly the speed with which Windows settles down after a restart.

    Before using it, Windows would take ~5-10 minutes for CPU, network and file I/O to finally settle back down from its initial frenetic activity. After using the script, the settling down now happens within 2 minutes.

    In my experience it's especially useful for VMs (and underpowered netbooks) where I want the smalled footprint possible, not only for the size of the Windows installation, but also to release as many Windows resources as possible (and as quickly as possible) so I can use the VM to test something. (I'm particularly pleased that I've been able to get CPU usage down to a mere 1%-2% at idle.)

    Here's my 6-yr-old Dell Latitude E7450 with paltry 4GB RAM running 20H2 a minute and a half after a restart:

    Discussion on what to debloat next on windows 10-20h2_no_cpu_usage.png

    So, not 'snake oil' IMO... just judicious use of built-in PowerShell automation used in Audit Mode whilst OOBE is paused.

    Hope this helps...
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    Windows 10 Pro 21H1 19043.1348
       #14

    Hi Rick

    Does the Windows 10 Decrapifier allow the option to retain Cortana? Kari's review suggested he was unsuccessful at keeping Cortana after debloating.
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    Mac OS Catalina
       #15

    So the OP wants to break the OS but keep the real bloat. It is obvious that they do not understand how far MS has come and going to go in gutting out all of the old code from 10 and future editions.
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  6. Posts : 15
    10
    Thread Starter
       #16

    W10 Tweaker said:
    Hi glegster

    Welcome to Ten Forums.


    If you search Tenforums.com you will eventually locate the debloating threads, they're here and other places that Google will direct you.

    I have tweaked my OS considerably, however; I have yet to attempt any of the debloater fixes. I'd truly appreciate any performance improvement stats you might gather after trying one.


    It might prove satisfying to remove this extraneous crap but I'm not yet convinced that the risk of breaking Windows verses a small performance improvement is worthwhile for the debloaters.


    This looks similar to another version I've been tempted by although I can't recommend it because I haven't tried it or researched it sufficiently.

    How to Debloat Windows 10 with Windows Debloater


    I'd have more faith in this option based on Kari's review, however; again, I can't recommend it because the same reasons above and if it potentially breaks Cortana, I'm definitely not interested.


    Windows 10 Decrapifier – Win10.Guru




    I'd suggest more effort on controlling Windows Update with a solution such as this one;

    Using CMD script and VBScript to control Windows Update

    I use the above fix on 4 PCs, 2 of my own and two others I manage.


    I do have records somewhere on a debloater that was presented here. I'll add in a link when I find it.

    Here's some other reading for you.

    Bloatware Removal Script

    Bulk Crap Uninstaller

    GitHub - Sycnex/Windows10Debloater: Script to remove Windows 10 bloatware.

    Happy adventures.

    I USE w10privacy
    still internal timers need tweaking and anthing else i may have missed

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    ThrashZone said:
    Hi,
    Most just use shutup 10 and be done
    O&O ShutUp10

    I personally just remove all apps with power shell @Brink has tutorials how it's done a lot shorter than 11 hours of tubers lol
    w10privacy

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    RickC said:
    I've been using csand's Windows 10 Decrapifier script for the last ~18 months (and have added my own registry and scheduled task tweaks to it) and - like Kari - am very pleased with it, particularly the speed with which Windows settles down after a restart.

    Before using it, Windows would take ~5-10 minutes for CPU, network and file I/O to finally settle back down from its initial frenetic activity. After using the script, the settling down now happens within 2 minutes.

    In my experience it's especially useful for VMs (and underpowered netbooks) where I want the smalled footprint possible, not only for the size of the Windows installation, but also to release as many Windows resources as possible (and as quickly as possible) so I can use the VM to test something. (I'm particularly pleased that I've been able to get CPU usage down to a mere 1%-2% at idle.)

    Here's my 6-yr-old Dell Latitude E7450 with paltry 4GB RAM running 20H2 a minute and a half after a restart:

    Discussion on what to debloat next on windows 10-20h2_no_cpu_usage.png

    So, not 'snake oil' IMO... just judicious use of built-in PowerShell automation used in Audit Mode whilst OOBE is paused.

    Hope this helps...
    windows 7 and vist and xp level of cpu usage
    my friends apu used to shoot up to 64% usage before i changed things now it rarely goes up to 48%
    and when i am idle i use 3% cpu not 6 or 7 like i used too helps when watching shows as mpc-hc does not add much and i do not bum 100% hardly at all now. i think we are in the deep end of the pool and know how to swim not in the deep just learning or sinking. because this will help when i need all my single core prowess for things
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  7. Posts : 1,767
    Windows 10 Pro (+ Windows 10 Home VMs for testing)
       #17

    W10 Tweaker said:
    Hi Rick

    Does the Windows 10 Decrapifier allow the option to retain Cortana? Kari's review suggested he was unsuccessful at keeping Cortana after debloating.
    Sorry, I don't know... because I don't use the -Cortana switch to keep it.

    Cortana is one of the things I always get rid of. Note that Kari's review was back in 2019 so may have been the previous version of the script to the one I currently use. The header section of the script I'm using shows:
    Code:
    #Windows 10 Decrapifier 18XX/19XX
    #By CSAND
    #Jan 21 2021

    However, I just checked and the latest version shows:
    Code:
    #Windows 10 Decrapifier 18XX/19XX/20XX
    #By CSAND
    #July 6 2021

    So, I'm going to have to check what has changed.

    Hope this helps...

    EDIT: Kari's review was October 2019... so it's most likely he was using this version of the script:
    Code:
    #Windows 10 Decrapifier 1803/1809
    #By CSAND
    #Mar 7 2019
    The changelog doesn't show any changes to this 1803/1809 script until 2020 so the current script is now several iterations newer.
    Last edited by RickC; 22 Aug 2021 at 16:07.
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  8. Posts : 15
    10
    Thread Starter
       #18

    bro67 said:
    So the OP wants to break the OS but keep the real bloat. It is obvious that they do not understand how far MS has come and going to go in gutting out all of the old code from 10 and future editions.
    when did i say i want to break it. i got rid of the bloat i do not use.

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    RickC said:
    Sorry, I don't know... because I don't use the -Cortana switch to keep it.

    Cortana is one of the things I always get rid of. Note that Kari's review was back in 2019 so may have been the previous version of the script to the one I currently use. The header section of the script I'm using shows:
    Code:
    #Windows 10 Decrapifier 18XX/19XX
    #By CSAND
    #Jan 21 2021

    However, I just checked and the latest version shows:
    Code:
    #Windows 10 Decrapifier 18XX/19XX/20XX
    #By CSAND
    #July 6 2021

    So, I'm going to have to check what has changed.

    Hope this helps...
    doesn't removing cortana effect windows search
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  9. Posts : 1,767
    Windows 10 Pro (+ Windows 10 Home VMs for testing)
       #19

    glegster said:
    doesn't removing cortana effect windows search
    I don't like or use MS's search for web results as I personally don't find Bing returns much that is useful. As a result I limit Windows search to local results only... and removing Cortana doesn't affect this.

    Hope this helps...
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  10. Posts : 1,807
    Windows 10 Pro 21H1 19043.1348
       #20

    Thanks for the info, RickC

    I don't usually use Cortana for web searches and avoid Bing & CrEdge like the plague.

    Classic Start menu, Vivaldi and Startpage.com

    The odd time I might let Classic start menu link to a url, however; that's fixed to redirect to Startpage on Vivaldi.

    If I were to disable Cortana, would I retain the ability to launch urls from Classic Start menu and locate programs & files on my PC using the taskbar search?
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