Any worthwhile windows migration program?


  1. Posts : 63
    Windows 10.
       #1

    Any worthwhile windows migration program?


    As a computer repair technician, I usually install windows and transfer data from a previous Windows computer (Windows 10, 8 or 7).

    I wonder if there is any reliable transfer software so that I can transfer data, settings and all that can possibly be transferred from an old PC to a new PC, such as by plugging the system drive to the new PC, or to a different PC.

    Windows offers some software for this: is this worth your while for techs doing simple reinstalls and transfers?:
    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/mem...ytics/overview

    Please correct me if I’m wrong: my idea is that these transfer apps are not worth the hassle and it’s better to just install and transfer the data manually either with file explorer, robocopy, Acronis or something of the sort even though this is much longer and laborious.

    Any advice much appreciated
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  2. Posts : 1,615
    11, 10, 8.1 and 7 all Professional versions, and Linux Mint
       #2

    Yes - widely recommended on this site
    Macrium Reflect free
    and to quote Kari who has written extensive tutorials for Macrium

    Backup and Restore with Macrium Reflect

    I want to start with a very subjective, personal opinion: Macrium Reflect Free is the best available free imaging solution for Windows.

    That being said there are quite a many alternatives for those searching for a free, easy to use imaging solution to create regular backups of your Windows installation. I have tried most of them, been quite happy with some but never found anything that comes even close to Macrium Reflect. It is extremely easy to use even for newbies and does exactly what it is designed to do, backing up your Windows system allowing an easy restore when something goes wrong.
    and it has NEVER let me down either on the sites I work on when I have suggested it , or on a personal basis.

    Macrium Software | Reflect Free Edition

    and the user guide
    Macrium Reflect User Guide - Knowledgebase 8.0 - Macrium Reflect Knowledgebase

    and to a different computer - hardware
    Re-deploying to new hardware - Knowledgebase 8.0 - Macrium Reflect Knowledgebase

    Your post is not clear to me as -
    Please correct me if I’m wrong: my idea is that these transfer apps are not worth the hassle and it’s better to just install and transfer the data manually either with file explorer, robocopy, Acronis or something of the sort even though this is much longer and laborious.
    as whilst personal data can be transferred manually by simple copy and paste or whatever method you wish

    Installed apps/programs cannot be transferred manually - as of course they have data in many places including the registry etc.

    Finally
    As a computer repair technician,
    I am puzzled as to what exactly you are asking, as the question as I read it, seems too basic for a repair tech to be asking.

    Please explain what it is I am missing as to the technicalities of the question
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  3. Posts : 43,160
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #3

    Looking at this from another angle: whilst you can move entire windows installations from PC to PC, there is another approach, albeit at a license cost per use, which can be helpful in some cases where the above is infeasible (E.g. ex -MBR -> UEFI installation).

    Laplink PCMover
    Easeus Todo PCTrans

    I have used these, but only a couple of times and some years ago now.
    Both programs and data can be (selectively) transferred- a huge timesaving for complex installations with many programs.
    I found some 95% plus success- a few progs had to have their licenses reapplied, a few had to be reinstalled.
    Either both PC's have to be 32 bits, both 64 bits. You can't mix these.

    A disk image of the source PC makes this easier (see e.g. Macrium Reflect - above).
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  4. Posts : 63
    Windows 10.
    Thread Starter
       #4

    dalchina said:
    Looking at this from another angle: whilst you can move entire windows installations from PC to PC, there is another approach, albeit at a license cost per use, which can be helpful in some cases where the above is infeasible (E.g. ex -MBR -> UEFI installation).

    Laplink PCMover
    Easeus Todo PCTrans

    I have used these, but only a couple of times and some years ago now.
    Both programs and data can be (selectively) transferred- a huge timesaving for complex installations with many programs.
    I found some 95% plus success- a few progs had to have their licenses reapplied, a few had to be reinstalled.
    Either both PC's have to be 32 bits, both 64 bits. You can't mix these.

    A disk image of the source PC makes this easier (see e.g. Macrium Reflect - above).
    I'm trying to find some time for Macrium.
    Judging by your answer it seems like you understood my question.
    Thank you.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Macboatmaster said:
    Yes - widely recommended on this site
    Macrium Reflect free
    and to quote Kari who has written extensive tutorials for Macrium

    Backup and Restore with Macrium Reflect



    and it has NEVER let me down either on the sites I work on when I have suggested it , or on a personal basis.

    Macrium Software | Reflect Free Edition

    and the user guide
    Macrium Reflect User Guide - Knowledgebase 8.0 - Macrium Reflect Knowledgebase

    and to a different computer - hardware
    Re-deploying to new hardware - Knowledgebase 8.0 - Macrium Reflect Knowledgebase

    Your post is not clear to me as -


    as whilst personal data can be transferred manually by simple copy and paste or whatever method you wish

    Installed apps/programs cannot be transferred manually - as of course they have data in many places including the registry etc.

    Finally

    I am puzzled as to what exactly you are asking, as the question as I read it, seems too basic for a repair tech to be asking.

    Please explain what it is I am missing as to the technicalities of the question
    I'm trying to find some time for Macrium.
    Judging by your answer it seems like you understood my question.
    Thank you.
      My Computer


  5. Posts : 18,034
    Win 10 Pro 64-bit v1909 - Build 18363 Custom ISO Install
       #5

    Hello @rodion15,

    Macrium Reflect is widely used on this Forum so there is PLENTY of help available if you need it. Here are some alternatives that you might also find useful . . .

     Alternatives - Imaging & Backup

    Other Backup options [ Software ] available . . .

    Software:

    This Software is listed in alphabetical order as opposed to relevance order.

    > Acronis True Image - PAID
    > AOMEI Backupper Standard Edition - Free Backup Software for Windows - FREE
    > EaseUS ToDo Backup - FREE
    > FreeFileSync: Open Source File Synchronization & Backup Software - FREE
    > Karen's Replicator - Backup Utility - FREE
    > NovaBackup - PAID
    > Paragon Backup & Recovery - FREE
    > Second Copy Automatic Backup Software - PAID
    > SyncBackFree: Backup and Synchronization Software - FREE
    > SyncToy - MS Download Centre - FREE



    I hope this helps.
      My Computer


  6. Posts : 4,617
    several
       #6

    There are several programs that can "adjust to new hardware".

    Therefore one way is to transfer the hd to new machine, boot the adjust program (they can create boot media ), then point it at the windows installation.

    Or image the current installation, restore the image to a new hd on the new machine. Point the adjust program at it before trying to boot into the transferred installation

    They usually also have an "add drivers" button, so any drivers needed for the new machine that arent already in the windows filerepository can be integrated.

    Paragon were the first to do this.

    The only free one I know of that supports up to win10 is O&O diskimage Pro v15 - available on giveaway.

    Register for free license
    O&O DiskImage 15

    Download the program.
    Download Archive
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  7. Posts : 31,825
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #7

    The paid-for version of Macrium Reflect comes with a ReDeploy feature that does much the same as those listed above by S1W2. But I have yet to find a situation that needs such help. Windows 10 itself is pretty good at sorting out new drivers when it find itself unexpectedly running on new hardware.

    I have recently restored a Macrium image of my System One below (Intel Pentium, Intel HD graphics) to a new machine with an AMD processor and Radeon graphics. On first boot it said 'installing drivers' then rebooted to the desktop with everything working properly. A check for updates in Windows update was all that was required to get a few more AMD-specific drivers.
      My Computers


  8. Posts : 31,825
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #8

    Ztruker said:
    Bree, I thought Macrium's ReDeploy was for restoring an image to new hardware. I don't think it has anything to do with software, or am I misunderstanding you post (again)?
    I was just making the point that no matter how different the new hardware is, I've never yet found a case where Windows can't sort it out for itself with out the aid of ReDeploy, or any other 3rd-part tool for fining the 'right' drivers.
      My Computers


  9. Posts : 15,498
    Windows10
       #9

    Bree said:
    I was just making the point that no matter how different the new hardware is, I've never yet found a case where Windows can't sort it out for itself with out the aid of ReDeploy, or any other 3rd-part tool for fining the 'right' drivers.
    Yep, I do following all from tenforum tutorials.

    1) download drivers for new device.

    2) make an iso of current installation on old device


    3) Create custom iso by injecting drivers into install.wim. Also if new pc has optane memory, inject optane drivers into boot.wim.

    4) Clean install custom iso.

    I never bother sysprepping anymore to remove old hardware drivers as W10 handles driver changes much more effectively than older versions.

    I recently transferred OS from AMD laptop with Broadcom wifi, Radeon Graphics, SSD, forget sound but not realtek to new Intel PC, Intel Wifi, Iris graphics, realtek audio i.e. every major item different, and it booted fine. The main trick is to get all drivers for new pc upfront.

    It may take a bit of effort learning how to use dism, but worth it in the end, and satisfying of course.
      My Computer


 

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