New SSD, Attempting new clean install via usb Nothing Works

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  1. NavyLCDR's Avatar
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       #21

    seekandfind said:
    What might be the reason I can't see the old hard drive?
    Thank you.
    Because it's controller board has completely failed.
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  2. Macboatmaster's Avatar
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       #22

    What might be the reason I can't see the old hard drive?
    Providing you have the power and sata data connections correct, it could mean that the drive is beyond recovery.
    There are two basic types of drive
    The older hard drive as it is called with platters - discs on which the data is stored and a moving read write head, the disc spins as a 33 LP would on a record player or as a CD/DVD would and the read write head moves across the disc.

    The read write head is separated from the platers by less than a human hair thickness and the slightest jolt whilst the read write head is not parked can result in damage to the platter

    Additionally it has of course electrical circuits and a motor of a fashion to drive the platters
    Any failure of any part could result in the drive being unusable and the data unrecoverable


    The other type is the more modern SSD - solid state drive - no moving parts - in simple terms think of it as ram chips.

    Check device manager see if anything seen there under disk drives
    sometimes even when not see in disk manager it can show in device manager
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  3. steve108's Avatar
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       #23

    seekandfind said:
    So I plugged in the old hard drive. I now see

    Local Disk c
    USB Drive D (which there is no usb plugged in. When I double click on D it says Please insert a disk into USB Drive D).
    DVD RW

    I see those 3. In disk management D says removeable and shows no size.
    I think I am concluding I cannot see the old hard drive??? Since I formatted it?

    I plugged in it's old power cord and put sata to hdd2
    I hit f2 and saw that nothing changed in boot order.

    UPDATE

    Then I opened case and moved old hard drive to odd2 and it didn't then want to start even though bot order was the same. So I moved it back to hdd2 and now I can see another drive (but computer was slow to start)
    It is called Local disk D 9GB used 238GB unused. I thought I had a larger disk, ie 500. I did a format a few times trying to install to this disk.
    I went to users, I saw all the folders documents etc but there was nothing in them. : (
    Thank you.
    You can take a look at the drives listed in the BIOS with and without the old drive connected to see if there's any difference.

    If the old HDD doesn't show up in the BIOS, then Windows won't see it either.

    Also check to see if the old HDD motor is spinning by touching edge of it to feel for vibration from its spindle motor.
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  4. Posts : 17
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       #24

    I think Windows saw it because I was able to slide down into the users and saw documents etc but they were all empty.

    And properties was showing far less available than 500 gb which is what it should have been. I only saw folders that looked foreign to me. The names/ structure were limited in number of folders and different from what I have normally seen.
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  5. Macboatmaster's Avatar
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       #25

    I never saw the update to your post regarding the drive now being seen in windows
    However as you say
    I did a format a few times trying to install to this disk.
    your chance of getting anything off the drive is very small, as of course formatting it, although it does not actually delete the data, formats the master file table on the drive

    You may consider that the index to the drive
    When you look for something on a drive, it is not found by the whole drive being searched
    That would be like looking for a particular mention of something in a encyclopedia without an index.
    The pic or doc you are looking for is found by the drive finding its entry in the MFT and that tells it where it is on the drive.

    See this
    Does Formatting a Hard Drive Completely Erase All Data?

    HOWEVER each of the attempts to install the OS on the drive then wrote data on the drive - and each write did indeed further corrupt your data.
    Had it just have been formatted without the install attempts the data may have been recoverable
    NOW success is extremely unlikely

    Try Recuva - do not install it on the drive in question.
    I doubt it will succeed but it is worth a try
    Free version
    Download Recuva | Recover deleted files, free!
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  6. Posts : 17
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       #26

    Thank you.
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  7. Posts : 17
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    Thread Starter
       #27

    new problem SSdD?


    It seems I am having a new problem.

    I was going along for about a week, computer fast, no issues, then I was copying and pasting large files to my external drive and back to the desktop samsung ssd.

    For the first time every my screen turned black and then blinked back off and on, few seconds delay, then went to black and turned back on.

    then desktop restarted on it's own.

    This has never happened to me before on any computer. Ever since then , out of the blue, my mouse is lagging. I updated the driver mouse. Still lagging. This has been about 3 days now. Totally ruining my experience with finally my new windows 10. So hard to use.

    I closed down chrome to see if it still lagged and yes it did. My disk % and cpu % very low, memory is sitting
    at about 22%

    I know this is a new issue but I thought I would try and ask anyway.

    Is my new ssd ok? I never had my computer do those things and restart on it's own.
    So 3 problems, what happened? Is my ssd ok? How to get my mouse back to normal?
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  8. Macboatmaster's Avatar
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       #28

    Before we start and look at what may be the problem cause I am a little confused
    You say
    I was going along for about a week, computer fast, no issues, then I was copying and pasting large files to my external drive and back to the desktop samsung ssd.
    If you copy and paste the original file on the Samsung is not moved or changed, so why would you copy and paste to the external drive and then copy and paste that back to the Samsung
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  9. Posts : 17
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       #29

    I was simultaneously pasting a file from the external to the ssd and another different file from the ssd to the external. There was a bit of an overlap in time when this all happened.
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  10. Macboatmaster's Avatar
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       #30

    What size in total were the files that you selected for copying and pasting - at the same time
    simultaneously pasting a file from the external to the ssd and another different file from the ssd to the external.
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