Installing Win10 x86 on NEW Computers!?!?!


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    Installing Win10 x86 on NEW Computers!?!?!


    Hello All,



    I've got a client that has the need to purchase NEW machines that can run Win10 x86.

    They can't run x86 apps in Compatibility Mode, it has to be x86 OS.

    This chart from Intel makes it seem like most newer processors don't support x86 OS's:
    Does My Intel(R) Processor Support Microsoft Windows(R) 10?

    Our Dell Rep says (and I've confirmed on some Optiplex 3080 Micros) that all newer Dell BIOS' don't allow for Legacy Booting to INTERNAL devices, only EXTERNAL devices!


    Thought about trying to simply run the software in Compatibility Mode, but the software my client is running controls a specific device.

    The device manufacturer states that the software "cannot run on any OS other than a x86 OS."



    When I questioned them about running it in "compatibility mode" on a Win10 x64 machine, they explained that they've tested that and have found 'significant' issues with doing so. When asking about running the software in a VM on an x64 machine, they suggested that "the software is much too robust to be properly run from a VM on a standard windows desktop".



    It's an older piece of hardware that really needs to be replaced, but it has a value of over $400K. So....the client certainly isn't interested in replacing it anytime soon.



    So here I am....looking for ways to run Win10 x86 on a machine that's new enough to hold a warranty. I don't want to fight an older machine. We're stuck right now as it is because the current machine's mobo died (an old eMachine...don't get me started) and I can't even find parts for it. lol


    HALP! :)
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    We're stuck right now as it is because the current machine's mobo died (an old eMachine...don't get me started) and I can't even find parts for it
    I know what you mean but those machines weren't too bad. Several years ago Gateway bought eMachines as they wanted a 'value' line then a few years later Acer bought Gateway.

    From what I've been seeing with computer news it's a lot about Intel not making x86 CPUs followed by Microsoft not needing to produce the x86 version of Windows. Haven't heard any about the issue from AMD yet. Since I use a couple of their boards I'd check with Gigabyte.

    I just remembered that was written about a year ago on this forum.
    Microsoft will no longer release 32-bit (x86) Windows 10 to OEMs
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    20 years ago, at a former employer, some expensive hardware required real DOS mode, which meant Windows 98. NT4, 200, and XP were of no use.

    The solution was to stockpile old PCs.

    That may be your only option.
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    What about running the required OS in a virtual machine running under Windows 10 Pro 64 bit?
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    NavyLCDR said:
    What about running the required OS in a virtual machine running under Windows 10 Pro 64 bit?
    I think the OP already answered that question

    When asking about running the software in a VM on an x64 machine, they suggested that "the software is much too robust to be properly run from a VM on a standard windows desktop".
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    Maybe the solution is to pick up a second hand machine, more recent than the old emachine, but capable of running the os the client wants. Quite a lot of second hand business machines around now.

    Some refurbishers will offer a not very long warranty. Alternatively, they are not that expensive if/when they need replacing.
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    erpster4 said:
    I think the OP already answered that question
    Thank you. Missed that! Although I seriously doubt that it is true. The software won't run on a 64 bit OS but is too robust to run in a VM?
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    NavyLCDR said:
    Thank you. Missed that! Although I seriously doubt that it is true. The software won't run on a 64 bit OS but is too robust to run in a VM?
    Maybe the meaning of "robust" is different in the IT universe than in normal English, but that's unfamilar to me.
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    In my mind "robust" implies one needs more RAM to perform well with a program, rules out the x86 and its 3.x GB RAM limit where the x64 has a much larger limit, more in the 128GB size for Home, 2TB for Pro and higher for other editions.
    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/win...its-windows-10
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