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  1. Posts : 12
    Windows 10 Home (64-bit)
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    Update past v1703 maddeningly impossible


    I have a purchased copy of Windows 10 Home (64-bit) and it's unfortunately stuck on v1709.
    For frustrating/mysterious reasons, it was never updated to v1803, v1803, or even v1903.

    I have been trying repeatedly to get v20H2 (October 2020) installed but Windows 10 Update Assistant, after much gyration and time, fails to implement the update:

    1. Accept
    2. Getting a few things ready ...
    Update this PC now
    Create installation media (USB flash drive, DVD, or ISO file) for another PC
    3. Downloading Windows ...
    4. Verifying download ...
    5. Creating Windows 10 media ...


    Alas, I have no confidence in Microsoft's Windows 10 Update Assistant and believe it's flawed software. This script as been done over and over again, with no success. Sometimes, after Step 3, it seemingly aborts and presents the desktop. Other times, it seems to complete all 5 steps and during the Restart, a cryptic error message appears and the restart continues.

    I stumbled onto this interesting WCCFtech article by Rafia Shaikh (who seems to be a real Windows 10 expert):

    Oct 20, 2020 13:11 EDT
    Direct Download Windows 10 ISO Files for Version 20H2 (32-Bit / 64-Bit)

    From this article:

    Direct download Windows 10 20H2 ISO files
    Microsoft has released the Windows 10 20H2 ISO files, which are now available for download. Here are the links (valid for both Home and Pro) to download Windows 10 October 2020 Update:
    Windows 10 October 2020 Update (64-bit)
    Windows 10 October 2020 Update (32-bit)

    Unfortunately, those links are now dead.
    I understand that, at least theoretically, v1709 can be updated to v20H2 directly, obviating (bypassing) the several incremental updates between the two. Is this true ??



    ● If using Windows 10 Update Assistant I was able to create an ISO file for v20H2, could that file be used to update my current system that is at v1709? Or does the ISO file presume a total clean install on a blank hard drive?
    I was hoping that I might simply download a simple Update Executable for, say, v1903 that might get me past the sticking point.

    ● Would someone any good (preferable simple) suggestion as to how I can get my system updated to v20H2 ?? The process so far has been maddening.
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  2. Berton's Avatar
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    Win10 Pro Versions 2004 and 2009/20H2, Win10 Pro IP_Dev, Win10 Home 1909
       #2

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10
    I use the above MCT/Media Creation Tool and run it to get to where I can download Win10. I use the choice of getting for a different computer if I want to save or can just start the Upgrade from there. I get the .iso file used to create the bootable DVD disc and create/write the Bootable USB to an 8GB or 16GB drive.
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  3. Posts : 90
    Win10
       #3

    Please list your machine specs
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  4. Samuria's Avatar
    Posts : 6,198
    windows 10
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    We have a lot of problems upgrading from old versions as they change the installer download the iso let windows create a usb then do a clean install that has worked everytime
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  5. Bree's Avatar
    Posts : 19,684
    10 Home x64 (21H1) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
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    MoreCowbell said:
    ....I understand that, at least theoretically, v1709 can be updated to v20H2 directly, obviating (bypassing) the several incremental updates between the two. Is this true ??

    Yes. I have in the past done a clean install of the original release 1507 (build 10240) then upgraded that directly with an ISO of the (then) current version (2004 If I recall correctly). Problems preventing upgrading are usually down to incompatible 3rd-party software and/or drivers, particularly AVs - not with Windows itself.

    If using Windows 10 Update Assistant I was able to create an ISO file for v20H2, could that file be used to update my current system that is at v1709?

    Yes, an in-place upgrade with a 20H2 ISO should work (subject to the proviso above about incompatible 3rd-party software).

    But you don't use the Update Assistant to make the ISO, you use the Media Creation Tool. That's Option One in this tutorial (or use Option Three to download an ISO direct from Microsoft).

    Download Windows 10 ISO File
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  6. Posts : 12
    Windows 10 Home (64-bit)
    Thread Starter
       #6

    As to Berton, what you wrote seems to get at the first of my 2 questions:

    "If using Windows 10 Update Assistant I was able to create an ISO file for v20H2, could that file be used to update my current system that is at v1709? Or does the ISO file presume a total clean install on a blank hard drive?"

    If I understand your comment, you are saying that if I choose the "Create ISO" pathway, I can use that created file to effect the update. My fear is that that would try to overwrite everything on my HD, wiping out installed software. I only want the update !! Can you please speak to my concern?

    As to FBunke, I have updated my machine specs and trust that they are visible within my profile.
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  7. Bree's Avatar
    Posts : 19,684
    10 Home x64 (21H1) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
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    MoreCowbell said:
    ....you are saying that if I choose the "Create ISO" pathway, I can use that created file to effect the update. My fear is that that would try to overwrite everything on my HD, wiping out installed software. I only want the update !! Can you please speak to my concern?.
    When you have the ISO, double-click on it to mount it as a virtual DVD drive. You will see a Setup.exe on the root of this drive, run it to start an in-place upgrade. This will upgrade your Windows, keeping all user files and installed software.
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  8. Posts : 12
    Windows 10 Home (64-bit)
    Thread Starter
       #8

    Sorry Bree - I just saw your post. I understand your point about Update Assistant and should have said (it it wasn't already clear) that I have the Win10 Media Creation Tool. In a nutshell, I believe you (like Berton) are saying that if I create a Win10 ISO file (through 20H2), I can effect an update only, and my entire system will not be replaced (and installed software overwritten).

    If this is so, Microsoft went out of its way NOT to explain that !!!

    Thanks for the tutorial link. I am reviewing.
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  9. Bree's Avatar
    Posts : 19,684
    10 Home x64 (21H1) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
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    MoreCowbell said:
    ... if I create a Win10 ISO file (through 20H2), I can effect an update only, and my entire system will not be replaced (and installed software overwritten).

    If this is so, Microsoft went out of its way NOT to explain that !!!
    This is possibly the clearest explanation (with screenshots) of the in-place upgrade process I have ever seen. As you can see, your apps and files will be safe....

    https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...b-59fe9082f925

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  10. Posts : 12
    Windows 10 Home (64-bit)
    Thread Starter
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    OK Bree - I looked at that great link you provided and zeroed in on Option 3. I went to the link:
    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10

    and followed the steps carefully. I eventually downloaded the ISO file for the 64-bit version.

    When I opened the 6.076GB ISO file, as you said, it presented a directory that included Setup.exe

    Unfortunately, when I 2X-clicked the exe, noting happened. Uggghhh !!!
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