Dual boot: Problem reinstalling W10

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  1. Posts : 22
    Windows 7 (original) and W10
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       #11

    Megahertz said:
    ...The Kari tutorial use the bootable Win 10 install media to apply the image...
    Thanks for more info, Megahertz - Last night I saved the tute URL so this morning I could do this routine to apply the image. Now I see that throughout the tute it's talking about starting from the Windows Setup screen - But I can't get to a setup window that looks like that by trying to execute from the disc while on W7. I'll poke around some more, but at the moment, this doesn't look possible to do with what I have. -
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  2. Posts : 4,571
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       #12

    But I can't get to a setup window that looks like that by trying to execute from the disc while on W7. I'll poke around some more, but at the moment, this doesn't look possible to do with what I have.

    Format the target partition you want to install on. Run Winntsetup.
    https://mega.nz/folder/zWIXgaqT#rdX_.../file/GOA32YaY

    Point at the win10 install.wim/install.esd. Select the edition you want in the dropdown. Point at the partition you want to install on. Click Setup. At the next window, click OK ( the defaults are fine).
    Last edited by SIW2; 12 May 2021 at 10:53.
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  3. Posts : 6,300
    Windows 11 Pro - Windows 7 HP - Lubuntu
       #13

    RBowser said:
    Thanks for more info, Megahertz - Last night I saved the tute URL so this morning I could do this routine to apply the image. Now I see that throughout the tute it's talking about starting from the Windows Setup screen - But I can't get to a setup window that looks like that by trying to execute from the disc while on W7. I'll poke around some more, but at the moment, this doesn't look possible to do with what I have. -
    Build a Win 10 USB installation drive. It will have the latest version and you may need it for maintenance.
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  4. Posts : 18,432
    Windows 11 Pro
       #14

    @RBowser,

    You can apply the image from a Command Prompt with Administrator privileges in Windows 7.
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  5. Posts : 18,432
    Windows 11 Pro
       #15

    First, let's see what I have:

    Dual boot: Problem reinstalling W10-capture.jpg

    My "Windows 7" (pretend) is C: drive, of course. My Windows 10 partition I want to apply to is T: drive. My DVD is E:. So, I open a command prompt with admin (run as administrator) and lets see what I have on my DVD. The commands are:

    Code:
    E:
    cd Sources
    dir install.*
    dism /get-wiminfo /wimfile:install.wim
    You need to change drive letter E: to whatever your DVD drive letter is. You probably have install.esd on your DVD instead of install.wim, so change the filename in the command to install.esd, if that is true. Here are the commands with the results:

    Code:
    C:\Windows\System32>E:
    
    E:\>cd Sources
    
    E:\sources>dir install.*
     Volume in drive E is CCCOMA_X64FRE_EN-US_DV9
     Volume Serial Number is D530-A34B
    
     Directory of E:\sources
    
    10/06/2019  09:09 PM     4,612,159,553 install.wim
                   1 File(s)  4,612,159,553 bytes
                   0 Dir(s)               0 bytes free
    
    E:\sources>dism /get-wiminfo /wimfile:install.wim
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.18362.1
    
    Details for image : install.wim
    
    Index : 1
    Name : Windows 10 Home
    Description : Windows 10 Home
    Size : 14,513,453,277 bytes
    
    Index : 2
    Name : Windows 10 Home N
    Description : Windows 10 Home N
    Size : 13,698,165,844 bytes
    
    Index : 3
    Name : Windows 10 Home Single Language
    Description : Windows 10 Home Single Language
    Size : 14,495,067,516 bytes
    
    Index : 4
    Name : Windows 10 Education
    Description : Windows 10 Education
    Size : 14,780,689,298 bytes
    
    Index : 5
    Name : Windows 10 Education N
    Description : Windows 10 Education N
    Size : 13,967,235,459 bytes
    
    Index : 6
    Name : Windows 10 Pro
    Description : Windows 10 Pro
    Size : 14,782,181,615 bytes
    
    Index : 7
    Name : Windows 10 Pro N
    Description : Windows 10 Pro N
    Size : 13,968,715,159 bytes
    
    Index : 8
    Name : Windows 10 Pro Education
    Description : Windows 10 Pro Education
    Size : 14,780,619,060 bytes
    
    Index : 9
    Name : Windows 10 Pro Education N
    Description : Windows 10 Pro Education N
    Size : 13,967,164,321 bytes
    
    Index : 10
    Name : Windows 10 Pro for Workstations
    Description : Windows 10 Pro for Workstations
    Size : 14,780,653,945 bytes
    
    Index : 11
    Name : Windows 10 Pro N for Workstations
    Description : Windows 10 Pro N for Workstations
    Size : 13,967,199,656 bytes
    
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    E:\sources>
    The DIR command shows I have install.wim. The DISM get-wiminfo command shows that if I want Windows 10 Home, I want index 1. Next I am going to format T: drive, apply the image to it, and then update my BCD so I can boot into it. The commands are:

    Code:
    format T: /FS:NTFS /V:"Windows 10" /Q
    dism /apply-image /imagefile:install.wim /Index:1 /ApplyDir:T:\
    bcdboot T:\Windows /d /addlast
    Don't forget to change drive letters to match yours, and you may need install.esd instead of install.wim. Change the index number to match the version of Windows 10 that you want. The commands with results are:

    Code:
    E:\sources>format T: /FS:NTFS /V:"Windows 10" /Q
    The type of the file system is NTFS.
    Enter current volume label for drive T: Home
    
    WARNING, ALL DATA ON NON-REMOVABLE DISK
    DRIVE T: WILL BE LOST!
    Proceed with Format (Y/N)? y
    QuickFormatting 64.0 GB
    Creating file system structures.
    Format complete.
          64.0 GB total disk space.
          63.9 GB are available.
    
    E:\sources>dism /apply-image /imagefile:install.wim /Index:1 /ApplyDir:T:\
    
    Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
    Version: 10.0.18362.1
    
    Applying image
    [==========================100.0%==========================]
    The operation completed successfully.
    
    E:\sources>E:\sources>bcdboot T:\Windows /d /addlast
    Boot files successfully created.
    
    E:\sources>
    That's it. Reboot the computer. Knowing the commands to use takes me 2 minutes for the commands and then 3 or 4 minutes waiting for the image to apply. Yours will be longer to apply coming from a DVD.
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  6. Posts : 22
    Windows 7 (original) and W10
    Thread Starter
       #16

    SIW2 said:
    Format the target partition you want to install on. Run Winntsetup.
    https://mega.nz/folder/zWIXgaqT#rdX_.../file/GOA32YaY

    Point at the win10 install.wim/install.esd. Select the edition you want in the dropdown. Point at the partition you want to install on. Click Setup. At the next window, click OK ( the defaults are fine).
    I'm trying this since I'm having no success so far this morning. - In running Winntsetup I downloaded from your link, when it asks me to identify the boot drive, the app has filled in "Z" and I see that drive has appeared in my list when I started this process. I leave it pointed to this temporary Z drive-?

    - - - Updated - - -

    NavyLCDR said:
    First, let's see what I have...
    Thanks - I'll try this next after trying SIW2's method. The first thing I tried this morning was to apply the image with Command Prompts but it didn't work. The install windows were completely different than the ones shown in the tute I was trying, and several times got the message "An attempt was made to load a program with an incorrect format." Your Command Prompts are different than what I tried, so I'll be going through that if what I'm currently trying to use doesn't work. Thanks.
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  7. Posts : 4,571
    several
       #17

    Did you format the target partion first?


    boot drive=esp partition on an efi system which is expected to be fat32 and showing 0 free space.. It is not normally allocated a letter in windows, but a letter is needed for bcboot purposes.

    Browse to the wim/esd. Select the edition. Browse to the installation partition which could also be called installation drive ( which is the one you have formatted and now want to install onto ) Click the Setup button.

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  8. Posts : 4,571
    several
       #18

    This is in english on an mbr disk

    Dual boot: Problem reinstalling W10-winntsetupv462.jpg


    "Select windows installation files " - click the search button and browse to the wim/swm/esd
    If you have an installation iso file rather than an easily accessed wim/swm/esd,
    RT click the search button and browse to the iso which it will automatically mount.

    The boot drive will be auto selected if there is one already. There is also a search button to select a different boot drive in case you have multiple disks , for example.

    Select the edition in the dropdown.

    Click Setup. OK the next window. Easy peasy. Job done.
    Last edited by SIW2; 12 May 2021 at 13:24.
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  9. Posts : 4,571
    several
       #19

    Advanced users can rt click the top border for the extra menu.

    Dual boot: Problem reinstalling W10-winntsetupv462-specailmenu.jpg
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  10. Posts : 22
    Windows 7 (original) and W10
    Thread Starter
       #20

    [QUOTE=SIW2;2220584 NavyLCDR;2220521 Megahertz;2220499[/QUOTE]
    I want to thank all 3 of you for the great help. Using the Winntsetup file you linked to, SIW2, I easily applied the ISO image and got W10 re-installed before you posted your follow-up posts. I didn't need to move on to the Command Prompts you posted for me, NavyLCDR.

    - BUT - even though W10 was installed, all looked great - it only lasted a few minutes. The same exact problem happened as with the last installation, the glitch I was trying to get rid of. After being up and running for just a little while, everything freezes up, the cursor can't move, and my only option is to do a hard shut down.---

    Meanwhile, my original W7 partition still works just as always. It never freezes up. So that means my hardware is OK, though maybe there are things not compatible with W10 now--? -- Maybe I can download a fresh copy of the W10 ISO and start all over again? - I'm really sorry I ever mucked around with the dual boot I had running smoothly for 1 1/2 years. The reason I wanted to change things was to give W10 a lot more room.

    One more thought -- I used EaseUS ToDo Backup to make the original partitions and I used it again to change the size of the W7 partition so I could enlarge the new W10 partition. Could my problem be because of using that program? Maybe I need to twiddle with my partitions again this time using the partition tools in Windows?- -- I don't know. But thanks much again for trying to help. All I know now is that I'm unable to install a W10 that functions for more than a few minutes.
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