Do not know my password when trying to join the WORKGROUP


  1. Posts : 51
    Windows 10
       #1

    Do not know my password when trying to join the WORKGROUP


    I have bought a new computer (NUC) with Windows Pro pre-installed. I am the sole user, therefore I'm logged in as a Microsoft member using the pin code established by Microsoft.

    I have established a WorkGroup and when I try to login from another computer, I'm asked for my user name and password, both of which I do not know since I use my email and password for Microsoft to get my Pin Number - I only need my PN to login.

    How do I either create a user name/password or find one if it exists?

    Todd

    P.S. A lot has changed in the new iterations of Windows 10!

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  2. Posts : 11,387
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 21H2 Build 19044.1706
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    Todd,

    This is what I did to set up my own network. Your username-password issues are addressed in steps 2 & 7.

    1 Set the same WorkGroup name on each computer - Change Workgroup - TenForumsTutorials

    2 Create a local Admin account on each computer with both the same username and the same password.
    - This will be used to authorise mutual network access upon the first connection to it but does not restrict which user accounts can subsequently be used when accessing the network.- This can actually be an MSAccount but a local one is normally less prone to errors.
    - Anyway, it's always a good idea to have a spare, password-protected local Admin account as a hedge against possible user profile corruption in the future.


    3 Set up all Control Panel, Network and Sharing Center, Advanced sharing settings - including
    4 Share the desired folders - Share Files and Folders Over a Network - TenForumsTutorials
    In brief,
    - In File explorer, right-click on the folder, Properties, Sharing tab, Advanced sharing
    - Set the checkbox for Share this folder
    - Give it a Share name
    - Click on Permissions,
    - Everyone - Set Full control, Change or Read as desired

    5 If a network includes earlier Windows versions, non-Windows computers or a network drive connected to the router then I understand SMB1 needs to be set up but this is not a topic I know about - Enable SMB1 File Sharing Protocol - TenForumsTutorials

    6 Connect each computer to the router's network and set it up as a Private network - Set Network Location to Private - TenForumsTutorials
    - This connection step assumes use of Windows defender. If you use different security software then you should check if it requires any additional steps, such as manually approving use of specific network adapters, but I imagine they are all pretty decently automated these days and would at least tell you if they were rejecting a network / network adapter.

    7 Access the shared drives both ways between each pair of computers & provide network credentials
    - The first time you do this you will need to enter the common local Admin account username and common password {the one set up on each computer at step 2 above}
    - Set the Remember my credentials checkbox so that you are never required to do this again

    - You will be able to access the shared drives using all other user accounts not just the Admin account used to set it all up.


    Denis
    Last edited by Try3; 12 Apr 2021 at 20:11.
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  3. Posts : 51
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #3

    I forgot to add that I logging in from an OS X system, something I have done in the past.

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  4. Posts : 11,387
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 21H2 Build 19044.1706
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    Todd,

    Then step 5 will apply to every computer on the network.

    Denis
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  5. Posts : 51
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #5

    I'm part way there, or so I think. I have implemented SMB1 (the Mac uses SMB). What is missing is how to specify my User Name and Password. One link suggested live.com\harry for the user name and my Microsoft password for the Password - but that does not work. Using C:\Users does give me my name for sure, the rest is an unknown at this time.

    Todd
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  6. Posts : 11,387
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 21H2 Build 19044.1706
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    Todd,

    The username & password must be those recognised by the target computer i.e. the computer whose shared folder you are trying to get access to.
    - Having the same account [both username & password] on every computer is a way of achieving that.
    - Making this common account a local one keeps things simple.
    - I have always made this common account an Admin one and I believe that must be essential.

    I know that Brink, the writer of Share Files and Folders Over a Network - TenForumsTutorials, does not bother using a common account so, if you are unable to do that because of the difference in OSs, I suggest you post a specific question in that tutorial thread about that topic.

    Whoever wrote about using harry must have been referring to a user account they had that was called harry. And they should also have explained that, in the example they were giving, that it was harry's password that was required.

    Denis
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  7. Posts : 51
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #7

    For clarification, I was using live.com\harry only as an example. What I should have said is for me, the example would be live.com\todd with my Microsoft password.

    Since the security updates by Microsoft, what use to be simple is now more difficulted - convoluted. But I quess I'm more secure.

    Todd
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  8. Posts : 95
    Windows 10 Pro
       #8

    Addendum: I have gotten all the computers to access each other via the short-cuts and by using their ip addresses (I have not bothered with their names inasmuch as one seemed to require the address instead of the names, so what works is what works).
    Do not know my password when trying to join the WORKGROUP-networkshortcuts.jpg
    However the table (wireless) is still giving me trouble. It can access the other computers via the short-cuts, but returns "This file is empty." (The Users file is not empty on that computer.) when its short-cut is clicked on another computer. Albeit, it returns pings correctly.
    Any idea as to what the problem can be?
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  9. Posts : 11,387
    Windows 10 Home x64 Version 21H2 Build 19044.1706
       #9

    Didn't you mean to post that in I can see other computers, they cannot see me.?

    All the best,
    Denis
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