Possible to install Windows 10 without Windows 10 PC?

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    Windows 10 I hope
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    Possible to install Windows 10 without Windows 10 PC?


    Possible to install Windows 10 without Windows 10 PC?

    The sequence of events.
    * Use Arch Linux, have no Windows PC.
    * Purchased an HP Compaq Elite 8300 USDT with Windows 10 Pro clean install
    * Windows 10 on 8300 booted fine, but I managed to brick the HD so it doesn't boot.
    * Downloaded Windows 10 Install ISO from https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...d/windows10ISO
    * Copied ISO image to USB flash drive
    * On 8300 bios boot selector USB flash drive shows as legacy device
    * 8300 bios boot fails with "No partition active"

    HP Compaq Elite 8300 USDT
    8 GB RAM
    500 GB HD
    Optical DVD Drive
    Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470S CPU @ 2.90GH

    8300 bios supports UEFI and legacy boot.

    For what it's worth, I copied four different Linux distros to a USB flash drive and all booted. I left a Manjaro-mate install running on the 8300 as a hardware test. It works fine.

    Any ideas on how to load Windows 10 on the 8300 with only an Arch Linux PC?
    Last edited by cootcraig; 16 Feb 2021 at 09:15. Reason: added UEFI comment
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    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
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    Copied ISO image to USB flash drive
    - does not make it a bootable drive.

    Clean Install Windows 10 without DVD or USB Flash Drive
    Create Bootable USB Flash Drive to Install Windows 10
    - please review the various options available.

    Whilst Rufus is not available for Linux, it seems there are such tools:
    Rufus Alternatives for Linux | AlternativeTo

    e.g.
    Possible to install Windows 10 without Windows 10 PC?-1.png

    I guess 'for' should be 'from' in the last comment...
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    Windows 10 I hope
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    I have tried UNetbootin with no success. Haven't found the magic steps for this.

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    I will try GitHub - WoeUSB/WoeUSB-ng: WoeUSB-ng is a simple tool that enable you to create your own usb stick windows installer from an iso image or a real DVD. This is a rewrite of original WoeUSB. right now.
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    Windows 11 Pro - Windows 7 HP - Lubuntu
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    Does the HP Compaq Elite 8300 has a UEFI BIOS?
    I suppose it does.
    Windows can be installed in two ways: Legacy-MBR or UEFI-GPT
    To install as Legacy-MBR you must boot the installation drive as Legacy
    To install as UEFI-GPT you must boot the installation drive as UEFI.

    As you have a new computer, you should install as UEFI-GPT

    Format a USB drive as Fat32 and copy all files and folders from the Win 10 iso to the USB drive.

    On BIOS, disable fast boot and secure boot (you can enable after installation)

    During POST, press F(?) to launch the boot menu. You will see two options for the USB drive. USB UEFI (Name) and USB (Name). Select USB UEFI (Name).
    Go to install and delete ALL partitions on the SSD till you have one and only one unallocated space and then proceed.
    If you don't want to use MS account, don't enable updates or connect to the internet during installation.
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    Thank you @dalchina. WoeUSB did the trick.
    Last edited by cootcraig; 18 Feb 2021 at 08:38.
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    Windows / Linux : Arch Linux
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    Hi there
    @cootcraig

    I assume you want to keep Arch Linux -- Usually when you need to Dual boot Linux and Windows the Windows system should always be installed first -- then at GRUB on the Linux install you'll get a message "Check for other OS's" - and if you specify YES then Windows boot manager will be added to the GRUB menu so at boot you can choose (or set a default).

    To make a bootable USB is easy enough from the linux system - I see you are familiar with Linux so should be easy enough. BTW to read / write ntfs file systems from Linux install ntfs-3g. Most distros have it installed automatically but arch linux which is nice and lean - you have to install it but the pacman package manger is one of the simplest anywhere simply as root type pacman -S ntfs-3g

    simply as root / sudo : dd if=<source file/device> of=<target file or device> bs=2048M status=progress.

    You don't need to format the output usb. It's better also if you have an iso image rather than a physical cd/dvd as it's a zillion times faster and less error prone.

    Job done ==> now boot usb, format HDD and install Windows, then re-install your Linux system -- it's worth while re-installing Linux - especially arch as it doesn't take long at all.

    Cheers
    jimbo
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    jimbo45 said:
    @cootcraig
    I assume you want to keep Arch Linux
    In this case no, I set up a new PC and could not get the Windows 10 iso to boot. I did want the new PC to dual boot. The dual boot was straight forward. 1)Installed Windows 10 on a partition. 2)Installed Arch on a partition. Grub then let me select Windows or Arch.

    jimbo45 said:
    To make a bootable USB is easy enough from the linux system
    WoeUSB on my existing Arch PC used the Windows 10 ISO to write a bootable USB flash. Nothing I tried before WoeUSB worked for me.
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    Windows 10 Home 20H2
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    Does Arch Linux have USB Image Writer?

    ISO Image Writer - A Reliable Bootable USB Creator for Linux

    I have never used it to create a bootable Windows device, though.
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    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
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    Hope the installation goes ok.
    If so, as soon as you can and before configuring your new O/S too much, start a routine and regular pattern of disk imaging to external storage using e.g. Macrium Reflect (free/paid) so you can restore your working environment and any imaged partition when something goes badly wrong, if necessary to a new disk or even a PC.
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    Windows 10 I hope
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    Matthew Wai said:
    Does Arch Linux have USB Image Writer?

    ISO Image Writer - A Reliable Bootable USB Creator for Linux

    I have never used it to create a bootable Windows device, though.
    I've not used "ISOImageWriter"; don't know if it can make a Windows install ISO bootable. WoeUSB worked fine for me. I have installed Brasero and will try that for writing CD-r and DVD-r.

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    dalchina said:
    Hope the installation goes ok.
    If so, as soon as you can and before configuring your new O/S too much, start a routine and regular pattern of disk imaging to external storage using e.g. Macrium Reflect (free/paid) so you can restore your working environment and any imaged partition when something goes badly wrong, if necessary to a new disk or even a PC.
    I've started looking at the "Backup and Restore" forum for ideas.
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