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  1.    18 Aug 2015 #51
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyMe View Post
    I'm confused now! Surely it should just be a case of booting from backup disk #1 and more-or-less selecting where you want the image to be stored. Am I missing something?
    No mate I created a backup image of windows 10 shortly after the install just to check everything was working as it should, I then created the repair cd however the image could not be seen by the repair cd so I then went about finding out why.

    Then I found out that windows restore had been turned off during the install, when I enabled that and turned on windows file backup the image was then read by the rescue cd.

    Infact I'm doing a image backup now as there is a new update ready to install.
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  2.    19 Aug 2015 #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bazz View Post
    Mine wouldn't show backups on drives until I turned on system restore and windows back up.
    Mine just said no restore points available
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  3.    20 Aug 2015 #53
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    Windows 10

    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    Windows 10 has topped over 50 million installs. If 100,000 of them went bad, that's still a 99.998% success rate.
    Is the Windows 10 calculator broken too? I'm pretty sure 100,000 out of 50,000,000 is 99.8%. And the point is that even if the success rate were as good as you imagine it still is not much comfort to those with broken systems.
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  4.    20 Aug 2015 #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by hiphopper View Post
    Is the Windows 10 calculator broken too? I'm pretty sure 100,000 out of 50,000,000 is 99.8%. And the point is that even if the success rate were as good as you imagine it still is not much comfort to those with broken systems.
    Yes, my fingers were fat. And yes, I do agree that Microsoft pushed the whole "Oh Look! Free Upgrade! Click Here!" too hard.
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  5.    21 Aug 2015 #55
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    Windows 10 Pro X64 16299.19

    Quote Originally Posted by jettman33 View Post
    Mine just said no restore points available
    System Restore seems to be disabled by default, a very bad decision by MS.
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  6.    21 Aug 2015 #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ztruker View Post
    System Restore seems to be disabled by default, a very bad decision by MS.

    Not with all I do believe it is do do with the size of the hard disk.
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  7.    21 Aug 2015 #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ztruker View Post
    System Restore seems to be disabled by default, a very bad decision by MS.
    I've noticed that as well, on several machines.
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  8.    21 Aug 2015 #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ztruker View Post
    System Restore seems to be disabled by default, a very bad decision by MS.
    Quote Originally Posted by simrick View Post
    I've noticed that as well, on several machines.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bazz View Post
    Not with all I do believe it is do do with the size of the hard disk.
    The thing is...the whole backup/restore/recovery thing really annoys me. I just don't know what Microsoft was thinking.

    They offered their free promotional upgrade which essentially meant that a large percentage of the world population were going to upgrade, especially with the saturation-style marketing of Win10.

    How they could not have included an automated imaging/backup process as part of the upgrade is beyond me. I'm sorry, but windows.old is not the same as an image. It does not afford anywhere near the same protection.

    The first thing that appears when a customer chooses to upgrade should have been something along the lines of "Windows will now create an image of your existing system. Please choose a target drive for the image" . They could have included an opt-out but the default should have been automated for the average user. And of course System Restore should also have been enabled by default. And finally, once an upgrade is a complete and the device boots for the time, a dialog prompt advising users to make a recovery disk with a short explanation of how it can be used in emergencies, should have been included by default.

    So many problems due to lack of backups or recovery media not working because system restore was not activated etc. And then to top, an overwhelmed MS support that is both insufficient in both numbers and training to resolve customer support needs efficiently.

    I find it all very poor.

    On the plus side, I have made money out of the situation. Every cloud etc.....
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  9.    21 Aug 2015 #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhyMe View Post
    The thing is...the whole backup/restore/recovery thing really annoys me. I just don't know what Microsoft was thinking.

    They offered their free promotional upgrade which essentially meant that a large percentage of the world population were going to upgrade, especially with the saturation-style marketing of Win10.

    How they could not have included an automated imaging/backup process as part of the upgrade is beyond me. I'm sorry, but windows.old is not the same as an image. It does not afford anywhere near the same protection.

    The first thing that appears when a customer chooses to upgrade should have been something along the lines of "Windows will now create an image of your existing system. Please choose a target drive for the image" . They could have included an opt-out but the default should have been automated for the average user. And of course System Restore should also have been enabled by default. And finally, once an upgrade is a complete and the device boots for the time, a dialog prompt advising users to make a recovery disk with a short explanation of how it can be used in emergencies, should have been included by default.

    So many problems due to lack of backups or recovery media not working because system restore was not activated etc. And then to top, an overwhelmed MS support that is both insufficient in both numbers and training to resolve customer support needs efficiently.

    I find it all very poor.

    On the plus side, I have made money out of the situation. Every cloud etc.....
    I totally agree, from what we read on this forum this upgrade tool needs some serious tweaking to make sure that it is always possible to return to your previous OS. Some may call it nieve, I think it is impotence on the creator.
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  10.    21 Aug 2015 #60
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    Windows 10 Pro x64

    WhyMe, I don't think that would have helped much. Users would have just opted out of making the image before the upgrade. Few people even have the external drive they would need to do that anyway.
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