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  1.    16 Aug 2015 #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    For Boot device ABSOLUTELY -- SSD's are Brilliant.

    For Large data files that don't change much it's not such a "No brainer" though.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    I didn't have the nerve to suggest upgrading to an SSD. That would not be helpful if ljt22 needs a lot of capacity on the boot drive. If she/he/it simply has a ton of data and can move it to an external drive, that'd be good. It's a bit more iffy if there are hundreds of gigabytes of games. (Absurd on an all-in-one, but not impossible.)
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  2.    16 Aug 2015 #22
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    I recently installed a 3TB drive on an old Dell Optiplex 790 (made in 2011). It supports UEFI and boots in about 30 seconds. So it depends on the PC. I can't see installing an SSD when the spinning hard disk boots in 30 seconds.
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  3.    16 Aug 2015 #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by topgundcp View Post
    Open disk management, Right click on the area of Disk 0 ->Properties->Volume. See screenshot:
    Attachment 31837


    You have read the spec or ask the seller to make sure if it works with large HD. Not all adapters are the same.


    Only works with 2.5" and too slow with USB 2.0

    For external USB HD. I would suggest not to use any enclosure if you can avoid it. The HD will be too hot inside the enclosure, not enough air flow and probably will be dead in couple of years.

    I use this adapter: Amazon.com: Anker® USB 3.0 to SATA 3ft Converter Adapter Cable for 2.5 inch/3.5 inch Hard Drive Disk HDD and SSD, Power Adapter included: Electronics
    It supports USB3.0 and can handle SSD/HD up to 4TB.
    NOTE: Power adapter is only used with 3.5" Mechanical drive.
    Attachment 31841
    Thx for all the infor.....Len
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  4.    16 Aug 2015 #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyLCDR View Post
    How do you explain the hundreds, if not thousands of USB 3 desktop hard drives available in enclosures? I have a desktop drive in an enclosure sitting on my desktop computer connected to the back USB ports. Most of the time I leave the power switch for it turned off. When I want to do a backup, all I have to do is turn the power switch on, back up to it, either shutdown the computer or do a safe removal in Windows and turn the power switch off for it.

    It's also shared on the network so if someone wants a file from one of their backups, flip the switch on, let it mount in Windows on the desktop, and access it via network to get what they need, then safely remove it in Windows and turn it off.

    Incredibly convenient and more reliable than a hard drive that is starting and stopping at the whim of the controller - for a hard drive used only for backups.
    In a way, you answered your own question. Yes, it is convenient. However, External HD is not designed for constantly used and in your case, you just use it to back up and occasionally sharing. But if you contantly use it then you'll be surprised one day to find out that your HD comes up with a RAW disk.
    Been there, Done that !!!
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  5.    16 Aug 2015 #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by topgundcp View Post
    Open disk management, Right click on the area of Disk 0 ->Properties->Volume. See screenshot:
    Attachment 31837


    You have read the spec or ask the seller to make sure if it works with large HD. Not all adapters are the same.


    Only works with 2.5" and too slow with USB 2.0

    For external USB HD. I would suggest not to use any enclosure if you can avoid it. The HD will be too hot inside the enclosure, not enough air flow and probably will be dead in couple of years.

    I use this adapter: Amazon.com: Anker® USB 3.0 to SATA 3ft Converter Adapter Cable for 2.5 inch/3.5 inch Hard Drive Disk HDD and SSD, Power Adapter included: Electronics
    It supports USB3.0 and can handle SSD/HD up to 4TB.
    NOTE: Power adapter is only used with 3.5" Mechanical drive.
    Attachment 31841
    I have had a look in disk management and under properties same as yours except no info its blank...I am sure HP don't want me updating ....lol Is there anywhere else to look??? Thx len
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  6.    16 Aug 2015 #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by topgundcp View Post
    Open disk management, Right click on the area of Disk 0 ->Properties->Volume. See screenshot:
    Attachment 31837


    You have read the spec or ask the seller to make sure if it works with large HD. Not all adapters are the same.


    Only works with 2.5" and too slow with USB 2.0

    For external USB HD. I would suggest not to use any enclosure if you can avoid it. The HD will be too hot inside the enclosure, not enough air flow and probably will be dead in couple of years.

    I use this adapter: Amazon.com: Anker® USB 3.0 to SATA 3ft Converter Adapter Cable for 2.5 inch/3.5 inch Hard Drive Disk HDD and SSD, Power Adapter included: Electronics
    It supports USB3.0 and can handle SSD/HD up to 4TB.
    NOTE: Power adapter is only used with 3.5" Mechanical drive.
    Attachment 31841
    WOW we are getting somewhere I had to populate a few times and it is exactly the same as yours GUID partition table (GPT)
    So does this mean I can get the 3 or 4 TB drive and format GPT???? and clone this disk??? Thx again for all the help Len..
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  7.    16 Aug 2015 #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobkn View Post
    I didn't have the nerve to suggest upgrading to an SSD. That would not be helpful if ljt22 needs a lot of capacity on the boot drive. If she/he/it simply has a ton of data and can move it to an external drive, that'd be good. It's a bit more iffy if there are hundreds of gigabytes of games. (Absurd on an all-in-one, but not impossible.)
    Seriously I don't think it's a good idea to mix your Windows OS with personal data. It is much easier to maintain and backup and if your PC becomes unbootable, you don't have to worry about losing any data.
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  8.    16 Aug 2015 #28
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    Thanks to all not there yet....


    Hi All can I just say a quick thank you to you ALL for coming back to me, I don't know where i'd be without you..
    Still not quite sorted but further on than I was yesterday thanks to you all.....

    Regards -Len
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  9.    16 Aug 2015 #29
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    Yes, You can initialize it as GPT and clone it. The next thing you need to find out what type of internal HD they use: 2.5" or 3.5". With all in one, I suspect that they use 2.5" 1TB HD. You can go to HP website, put in your serial number, they should list your system specs in detail.
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  10.    16 Aug 2015 #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by topgundcp View Post
    Yes, You can initialize it as GPT and clone it. The next thing you need to find out what type of internal HD they use: 2.5" or 3.5". With all in one, I suspect that they use 2.5" 1TB HD. You can go to HP website, put in your serial number, they should list your system specs in detail.
    Thx again, I believe its a 3.5 I have been watch the HP disk changes and they all seem to be 3.5 but I will check. I can't assume this is important.....I am getting excited and I have not yet got the drive. lol
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