HOW TO INSTALL DUAL BOOT 10/7 SYSTEM ON NVMe DRIVE WITH 10 FIRST?

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  1. Posts : 27
    windows 10 pro (x64), windows 7 ultimate (x64), windows XP (64)
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       #41

    topgundcp said:
    Setting 10 to be default will not do the job, it only shows which Windows is displayed on Boot Menu first, but rather depending on which Windows you run the "bcdboot" command from.
    While running Windows 10, assuming the drive letter of Windows 7 is assigned to D: then from Admin command, you'd run:
    bcdboot D:\Windows
    In this case, the BCD is created in Windows 7 hence you'll get the ugly non graphical dual boot menu.

    To get the Blue graphical dual boot menu. You must boot into Windows 7. Assuming while in Windows 7, Windows 10 is assigned to letter X:
    then run: bcdboot X:\Windows which will create the BCD in Windows 10.
    hello top...i tried your suggestion but heres what happened
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       #42

    hello top...i tried your suggestion but heres what happened
    I was wrong by stating: "You must boot into Windows 7". Actually, It does not matter which Windows you boot from. To get the graphical dual boot menu:

    1. While in Windows 7, use: bcdboot X:\Windows where X is the drive letter of Windows 10. But for some reason, you get an error.
    2. While in Windows 10, Use: bcdboot C:\Windows

    Either 1 or 2 should give the same result.
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    windows 10 pro (x64), windows 7 ultimate (x64), windows XP (64)
    Thread Starter
       #43

    topgundcp said:
    i was wrong by stating: "you must boot into windows 7". Actually, it does not matter which windows you boot from. To get the graphical dual boot menu:

    1. while in windows 7, use: bcdboot x:\windows where x is the drive letter of windows 10. But for some reason, you get an error.
    2. while in windows 10, use: bcdboot c:\windows

    either 1 or 2 should give the same result.
    thank you :)

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    SIW2 said:
    @ShArKy


    That might indicate there is corruption of the image.

    You could check by using dism++ to apply the image to the partition ( it is on the menu ).
    [If the target partition has got gecrappen on it - format it first with bootice or diskpart]

    Then you need to add a boot menu entry - nt6repair is also on the menu.

    Attachment 296619


    Attachment 296620


    Put a tick in the box for efi.
    You can click ??? to check you have selected the correct windows partition before clicking Apply.

    Attachment 296621
    hello again SIW2 i tried the dism but it wouldnt let me apply the image to D; root...rather i had to create a directory to extract into which created other problems so i wiped the mess clean again to try to install from the flash drive....but here are the errors i got... AGAIN it said i cant install into a GPT partition even tho my bios is set to UEFI
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       #44

    i tried the dism but it wouldnt let me apply the image
    I presume you mean dism++ ( which is not the same as dism)

    What do you mean by
    it wouldnt let me
    ?

    Did it give a message?
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       #45

    it said i cant install into a GPT partition even tho my bios is set to UEFI
    You need to boot the usb stick in efi mode.

    Press F12 for the one time boot menu and there should be two entries for the usb stick.
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  6. Posts : 27
    windows 10 pro (x64), windows 7 ultimate (x64), windows XP (64)
    Thread Starter
       #46

    SIW2 said:
    I presume you mean dism++ ( which is not the same as dism)

    What do you mean by ?

    Did it give a message?
    it said i couldnt install into the D: root directory rather into a sub folder which gave me an undesired result especially when i wanted to move everything into the root...

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    SIW2 said:
    You need to boot the usb stick in efi mode.

    Press F12 for the one time boot menu and there should be two entries for the usb stick.
    i have the bios set to UEFI mode...it doesnt give me an option to boot the usb stick in different modes

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    SIW2 said:
    You need to boot the usb stick in efi mode.

    Press F12 for the one time boot menu and there should be two entries for the usb stick.
    i tried again the run the installer from inside win10...i encountered no disk partition errors this this but when it got to 18 % of the files being expanded, i got this error again
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       #47

    It might be useful if you fill in your system specs.

    when you run dism++ in the booted media , what does it say at the top left of the main window?

    HOW TO INSTALL DUAL BOOT 10/7 SYSTEM ON NVMe DRIVE WITH 10 FIRST?-dism-firmware.jpg

    What you have posted seems to indicate 2 different issues:

    1. the media is not booting in efi

    2. the image is corrupted.

    i tried the dism but it wouldnt let me apply the image
    Possibly because the media is not booted in efi mode

    it said i couldnt install into the D: root directory rather into a sub folder which gave me an undesired result especially when i wanted to move everything into the root...
    Extracting the image with dism++ to see if it completes the extraction.

    If it gives an extraction error, that would confirm a corrupt image.
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  8. Posts : 27
    windows 10 pro (x64), windows 7 ultimate (x64), windows XP (64)
    Thread Starter
       #48

    SIW2 said:
    It might be useful if you fill in your system specs.

    when you run dism++ in the booted media , what does it say at the top left of the main window?

    HOW TO INSTALL DUAL BOOT 10/7 SYSTEM ON NVMe DRIVE WITH 10 FIRST?-dism-firmware.jpg

    What you have posted seems to indicate 2 different issues:

    1. the media is not booting in efi

    2. the image is corrupted.



    Possibly because the media is not booted in efi mode



    Extracting the image with dism++ to see if it completes the extraction.

    If it gives an extraction error, that would confirm a corrupt image.
    OK...heres what i did...

    heres my present drive set up as shown in my disk manager
    HOW TO INSTALL DUAL BOOT 10/7 SYSTEM ON NVMe DRIVE WITH 10 FIRST?-hard-drives.jpg

    so i performed a dism command thru an admin command prompt from the desktop...everything went fine in about 45 seconds it was finished...afterwards i checked the properties of the windows directories as it was written to the SSD
    & it was about 17.7 GB of goodies.

    i even configured the boot menu as i wanted to be in the win 10 style with 10 as the default & 7 as the optional...

    my problem now is when i choose to boot into win 7 i see the 4 swirling colors just fine...but then it stops booting, win 7 doesnt finish loading & the computer restarts into the recovery options mode
    is there an option inside the program you wrote that would repair or fix this to allow win7 to be properly loaded?
    i saw the nt6 repair windows you posted but i dont know how to use that utility & i dont know what all the settings mean...im willing to learn but as of now ii hesitate to create more problems
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  9. Posts : 27
    windows 10 pro (x64), windows 7 ultimate (x64), windows XP (64)
    Thread Starter
       #49

    Megahertz said:
    As your M.2 MVMe drive is already UEFI - GPT, you MUST install Win 7 64 as UEFI. Don't change the BIOS, leave it as UEFI.
    ON BIOS just check if Secure boot is disabled.
    hello this is the bios i have...i dunno if i have any option to boot usb in efi mode IM TRYING TO ATTACH A SCREENSHOT but the file attachment manager isnt working...its retaining files from a year ago without deleting them & wont let me upload any new ones...has anyone checked this to fix it?
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  10. Posts : 1
    Win 10, 7, Debian
       #50

    So damn rigth


    topgundcp said:
    Been a long time since 2009 I last used Acronis. However, I believe it should allow to clone partition like any other backup software. Most people use : Macrium Reflect free for this.

    But.... Here's what I would do to install Windows 7 on the partition that you've already reserved on the SSD.

    1. From Windows 10, copy the install.wim under sources folder of the Windows 7 disk to Windows 10 desktop
    2. Open Admin command prompt then navigate to desktop: cd %USERPROFILE%\desktop
    3. Type: dism /Apply-Image /ImageFile:install.wim /Index:1 /ApplyDir:X:\
      NOTE:
      replace X with the drive letter of the partition you intend to install Windows 7
    4. then type: bcdboot X:\Windows
    5. Reboot the PC, you should have a menu for dual boot, select Windows 7
    Hi, i registered just to thank this man.
    I was struggling with a Windows 7 installation on an Industrial Notebook which was uncompatible with 7 and also has NVMe.
    Following this method worked as charm, we have a dual boot now.

    Thanks.
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