Doing Windows update vs. installing new Windows version ?

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  1. Posts : 114
    Windows 10 Pro 21H1
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       #41

    dalchina said:
    I've always adopted a simple approach. Like you I have Pro. In Group Policy I set updates to 'Notify' - thus no update is applied until I say so. That means at a time of my choosing, giving the option to update my disk image before each and every update.

    I've also set feature updates (upgrades to next build) to be deferred for 365 days, so I can sit back and watch the fun and wait until MS (maybe) sorts things out.

    Now since 1909 I think, you can't have feature updates forced upon you in Home or Pro. You have to choose to accept that, rendering deferral somewhat redundant.

    Things change at end of service life as I think was mentioned above.

    Let caution be your watchword, and routine disk imaging your deep defence.
    The "Notify" option would be the one to choose.
    I noticed there is no option #1, at least on my PC. I wonder what it was, presuming it used to exist.

    Regarding "Not Configured", it says Automatic Updates are not specified, which is obvious. But what happens when updates become available? It also says an administrator can still configure Automatic Updates through Control Panel. But I don't see any Windows Update category in Control Panel like there is in Windows 7.

    Yes I plan on making disk images.
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  2. Posts : 34,993
    Win 10 Pro (1903) (2nd PC is 21H2)
       #42

    1 seems consigned to digital history.

    But I don't see any Windows Update category in Control Panel like there is in Windows 7.
    Correct- moved from there several builds back.

    It's one of those bits of digital debris which you'll find from time to time. Like links to non-existent help pages - a legacy of when Win 7 had more such links perhaps.
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  3. Posts : 7,457
    Windows 10 Home 20H2
       #43

    Mike100 said:
    I told my friend how to access Group Policy via "gpedit.msc" and he said it came up Computer Policy.
    Neither "gpedit.msc" nor "Computer Policy" exists in my Home version.

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  4. Posts : 56,064
    Multi-boot Windows 10/11 - RTM, RP, Beta, and Insider
       #44

    Matthew Wai said:
    Neither "gpedit.msc" nor "Computer Policy" exists in my Home version.

    Doing Windows update vs. installing new Windows version ?-gpedit.jpg
    Possibly with this approach, or one like it.

    How to enable gpedit.msc (Group Policy) on Windows 10 Home devices - gHacks Tech News

    OP (and Friend(s)) may be confusing the section title with the app title.
    The "Computer Policy" appears in the first section as a title.

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  5. Posts : 114
    Windows 10 Pro 21H1
    Thread Starter
       #45

    Here’s where I’m at -

    In Settings > Windows Settings > Update & Security > Windows Update > Advanced options, Feature updates are deferred 365 days & Quality updates are deferred 30 days.

    In Group Policy > Configure Automatic Updates, I had it set to Disabled.

    Windows Update said “You’re not up to date” and “Your device is missing important security & quality fixes.”

    I was wondering how do I get the “security & quality fixes” without getting the 2004 Feature update.

    I went back into Group Policy > Configure Automatic Updates and changed it back to the default "Not Configured".

    Restarted the PC and it did some updates which had me concerned. But it happened quickly so I presumed it was just the Quality updates & not a Feature update.

    Now Windows Updates no longer says I’m missing important security & quality fixes, which is good.

    However it now states there are 4 Pending downloads:

    2020-06 Security Update for Adobe Flash Player for Windows 10 Version 1909 for x64-based Systems (KB4561600).

    2020-06 Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1909 for x64-based Systems (KB4560960).

    2020-01 Update for Windows 10 Version 1909 for x64-based Systems (KB4497165).

    Intel Corporation - Display - 26.20.100.7562

    Since these appear to be updates for 1909 it seems I should click on “Download”. I’m presuming these showed up because they are past the 30 day delay for Quality Updates, is that correct?

    I don’t have Adobe Flash Player on the PC & don’t plan on installing it. How do I avoid downloading that update?

    Any comments & suggestions would be appreciated.
    Thanks
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  6. Posts : 7,457
    Windows 10 Home 20H2
       #46

    Mike100 said:
    I was wondering how do I get the “security & quality fixes” without getting the 2004 Feature update.
    2004 is optional.




    Mike100 said:
    I don’t have Adobe Flash Player on the PC & don’t plan on installing it. How do I avoid downloading that update?
    You can either install or hide other updates via Windows Update MiniTool.

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    Mike100 said:
    In Settings > Windows Settings > Update & Security > Windows Update > Advanced options, Feature updates are deferred 365 days & Quality updates are deferred 30 days.

    In Group Policy > Configure Automatic Updates, I had it set to Disabled.
    I have never done the above. Updates have never been installed automatically without my permission.

    Last edited by Matthew Wai; 29 Jul 2020 at 22:43.
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  7. Posts : 114
    Windows 10 Pro 21H1
    Thread Starter
       #47

    Matthew -
    Thank you for the information & I'll check out Windows Update MiniTool. Does MiniTool constantly monitor updates or do you have to run the program every so often?

    I still don't understand how one friend never gets updates & the other has to pause them.

    I am not getting updates installed automatically without my permission because I do have to click on "Download". But without using another program such as MiniTool it seems that "Download" will send everything to my PC.

    It appears MiniTool is giving my update functions similar to what is in Windows 7 where you can select or hide updates.

    Thanks again
    Last edited by Mike100; 30 Jul 2020 at 04:55.
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  8. Posts : 7,457
    Windows 10 Home 20H2
       #48

    Mike100 said:
    Does MiniTool constantly monitor updates or do you have to run the program every so often?
    MiniTool does not constantly monitor updates. I do not have to run the program every so often. I use Task Scheduler to run VBScript, which will check for updates automatically every day.

    Using CMD script and VBScript to control Windows Update
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