New System Build Little Bitty Question

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  1. Posts : 1,450
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit 20H2 19042.844
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    New System Build Little Bitty Question


    Shop Did a rebuild of my old Desktop, and reused the following components, Ram which is fine, my Samsung SSD, and Storage drive, it appears somehow they hid all the old hardware, and somehow got Windows 10 Pro to work with new board, and processor.

    IF i show hidden devices in Device manager though i see alot of my old hardware that was on my Asus G11CD-K Desktop

    Should i try uninstalling the old hardware from there, or just prepare for a clean install at some point? Advice appreciated on what is best to do.

    New system is Intel 10th Gen I7 10700, Gigabyte B460M-DS3H motherboard, Samsung 860 EVO 250gb, and 1tb western digital storage
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  2. Posts : 12,486
    Win10 Version 21H2 Pro and Home, Win11 Pro
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    What was the old motherboard? What hardware are you missing? Did the new board come with any software to be installed?
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  3. Posts : 2,078
    Windows 10 Pro
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    What was replaced? What hardware did they hide?
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  4. Posts : 1,867
    Windows 10 Pro 2004 20H1
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    There is a freeware program called DeviceCleanup that will remove those entries.

    Tools for Windows

    The entries are normal, and harmless.

    Example from one of our systems -

    Attachment 286679
    Last edited by OldNavyGuy; 04 Jul 2020 at 20:52.
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  5. Posts : 1,450
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit 20H2 19042.844
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    Well They Replaced Old Motherboard, and Processor, Don't think came with any software to install that i can see.

    Shows in Hidden items in Device Manager old DVD Writer that isn't in this PC, Asus wifi adapter in hidden items, ethernet from the old Asus, and bunch of other items that was in the old system, and not in this one


    is 239 Entries Harmless? I may just leave alone til i can afford a M.2 drive, and then do my clean install perhaps--not sure 100 percent though lol

    Also does my msinfo32 part look right?
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails New System Build Little Bitty Question-device-list-cleanup-tool.jpg   New System Build Little Bitty Question-does-look-right.jpg  
    Last edited by AMDMan2016; 04 Jul 2020 at 21:36.
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  6. TV2
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    W10 Pro 20H2
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    Device Manager will keep track and show every piece of hardware that's ever been installed in Windows if you select Show Hidden Devices. This is actually all of the entries in the Windows Registry.

    It is not going to hurt anything to just ignore these phantom entries if you know why they are there, which you do. Windows is ignoring them also, that's why they are hidden. Device Manager only shows active and existing hardware in normal mode.

    Every USB thumb drive you've plugged into your PC will show as hidden when they are not plugged in, and they will be revived to the Active list if you plug them in again. I think that is the logic of this. If you ever "plug in" your old motherboard everything Windows needs will be right there and waiting. As if you would ever do that!

    There are good reasons for doing a Clean Install, this is not really one of them. You will go along just fine as is.
    If you do decide to Clean Install that would be a good time to experiment with uninstalling hidden devices that you know are connected to the old motherboard and processor. That way if something gets messed up it is not a big loss. There are lots of minor System Devices associated with a motherboard in Device Manager and some of the current motherboard's devices can be in the hidden list. So the idea of cleaning the list and registry out manually does have risk.

    Hope that helps
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  7. Posts : 1,450
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit 20H2 19042.844
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    Did Help the information provided, Decided i'll just hold off on that systems clean install, and do a clean install probably later on, maybe even after i get the M.2 NVME drive installed, as that will be a good time to do one. Right now really isn't i suppose, as those entires aren't really causing a problem.

    msinfo32 i noticed shows secure boot state off, shouldn't that be on?
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  8. TV2
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    W10 Pro 20H2
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    For overall system security with Windows 10, Secure Boot should be enabled in BIOS.
    Do you know why it is off? Meaning, did you do that or the folks that set up the re-build?
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  9. Posts : 1,450
    Windows 10 Pro 64bit 20H2 19042.844
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    Haven't been into the Bios myself, so assume the shop switched it off for some reason, what reason i have no idea. But guess will venture in there and turn back on, hopefully that causes no issues if i do that in a few here

    Secure boot On

    XMP Profile Disabled as well, but i guess since CPU-Z shows ram at 2400 Speed, maybe i don't need that enabled, unsure on that part, so left alone lol

    Have DDR 4 2400 Ram installed currently
    Last edited by AMDMan2016; 05 Jul 2020 at 13:42.
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    Windows 7 HP 64 - Windows 10 Pro - Lubuntu
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    AMDMan2016 said:
    Haven't been into the Bios myself, so assume the shop switched it off for some reason, what reason i have no idea. But guess will venture in there and turn back on, hopefully that causes no issues if i do that in a few here

    Secure boot On

    XMP Profile Disabled as well, but i guess since CPU-Z shows ram at 2400 Speed, maybe i don't need that enabled, unsure on that part, so left alone lol

    Have DDR 4 2400 Ram installed currently
    You now have an Intel MB and CPU. You didn't answered: What was the previous MB you had?

    You may have a DDR 4 2400 Ram that has XMP (eXtreme Memory Profile) that allows to run on a overclock profile and increase performance.
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