Can I use Dual Layer DVD for Win10_2004_English_x64.iso?

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  1. Posts : 500
    Windows 10 Pro
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    Can I use Dual Layer DVD for Win10_2004_English_x64.iso?


    Hello ALL:
    I never had this issue before but now this ISO will no longer fit on a DVD! It now shows it is 5.268 GB and yes I did get it from MS but told CHROME I was using an IPad so it just had MS give me the ISO without needing the Media Creation Tool and logging in.

    So, will a dual layer DVD, that I have, boot?

    Also, I now have 2 systems with 64 bit Windows 10 Pro. One is an Enterprise VL and the other is not. Will this media be OK for both? What I am looking for is a good ISO as all of my others are VERY old and most are Win 7 8 or very old Windows 10.

    1909 18363 is what I have but isn't the Win10-_2004 even newer? Why I want this is that I have had a time or 2 when I added new hardware like a camera and windows said it wanted my install media to look for a driver. Am I OK with all of the above and I am sorry to be so wordy!
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  2. dalchina's Avatar
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    Win 10 Pro (1903)
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    You could use MS's media creation tool and create a bootable USB disk or a DVD directly - or even download an iso file.

    Bear in mind some small bugs and peculiarities are being experienced by some upgraders. E.g. today 1 reported left and right channel audio swapped- another, continuing problems with USB-C connections.

    Look at the 2004 feature differences- do you need it?

    What is new in the Windows 10 May 2020 Update version 2004
    Known and Resolved issues for Windows 10 May 2020 Update version 2004
    How to get the Windows 10 May 2020 Update version 2004
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  3. flavallee's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
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    If you make use of the new Media Creation Tool to obtain Version 2004 Build 19041 of the ISO file for Windows 10 64-bit, it is 3.85 GB in size and easily fits in a DVD.
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  4. Posts : 500
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #4

    Well, the issue is that the resulting iso is well over 4.7 GB now and I did specify 64 bit only. This ver 2004 is 5.268 GB. I do have dual layer DVD's I could use. MS is no longer giving me any other option but the 2004 version and I only wanted an iso in case I needed the media for drivers or something.

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    flavallee said:
    If you make use of the new Media Creation Tool to obtain Version 2004 Build 19041 of the ISO file for Windows 10 64-bit, it is 3.85 GB in size and easily fits in a DVD.
    Well, why is mine 5.268 GB and my problem, I think, is that I NEVER made an MS account and will not do it now. Is there a work around and will this media work for both my systems?
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  5. dalchina's Avatar
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    Thank you for your reply.
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  6. RickC's Avatar
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    Windows 7 + 10
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    MPSAN said:
    I never had this issue before but now this ISO will no longer fit on a DVD! It now shows it is 5.268 GB and yes I did get it from MS but told CHROME I was using an IPad so it just had MS give me the ISO without needing the Media Creation Tool and logging in.

    So, will a dual layer DVD, that I have, boot?

    Also, I now have 2 systems with 64 bit Windows 10 Pro. One is an Enterprise VL and the other is not. Will this media be OK for both? What I am looking for is a good ISO as all of my others are VERY old and most are Win 7 8 or very old Windows 10.

    1909 18363 is what I have but isn't the Win10-_2004 even newer? Why I want this is that I have had a time or 2 when I added new hardware like a camera and windows said it wanted my install media to look for a driver.
    Your profile doesn't show which country you live in so it's difficult to give you precise advice about MS' Media Creation Tool (which - by default - assumes 'US' but also allows you to download for other countries. For example, I always change the default to 'UK / international'.).

    A Microsoft Account is not needed to download the Media Creation Tool nor to use it... so there is absolutely no need for 'logging in'.

    (The direct download link for the MCT is https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=691209. Depending on what browser you use, this should show the downloader executable for the Windows 10 2004 version of the Media Creation Tool.)

    If your two systems currently use 1909 18363 then isn't the 1909 ISO the one you want rather than the 2004 one? (Having said that, I doubt changes have been made to driver support. The 2004 version isn't really much of a quantum leap from 1909, more a vehicle for more stuff that few people actually need.)

    The 1909 ISO can no longer be downloaded using the Media Creation Tool but is still available from Microsoft via Heidoc.net's portable Windows-ISO-Downloader.exe tool available from here.

    Note that the available downloads of Windows 10 ISOs from Heidoc.net do not include Enterprise/VL versions:

    Can I use Dual Layer DVD for Win10_2004_English_x64.iso?-heidoc_net.png

    A bootable DVD can be used but an optical drive is the slowest (and IMO the most fragile) install device going with dreadful 'read' speeds. Far quicker to create a USB installer... or why not just use Win 10's built-in support for right-clicking on an ISO file and choosing the Mount option:

    Can I use Dual Layer DVD for Win10_2004_English_x64.iso?-mount_iso.png

    I use a super-cheap 8GB USB3 stick and it fits the combined x32/x64 installer of Win 10 easily with space to spare. It'll carry out a clean install within minutes, rather than a grindingly slow install from DVD.

    Hope this helps...
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  7. Posts : 500
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    Thank You RickC. I am in the US and you are correct that it gave me the 10.0.19041.1 version. I guess that may be OK, but perhaps I can get the 1909 as you said MS does not give it. Also, for my other system is there any way to get the 1909 Enterprise version? Will look to see if I can find my 1909 version. I get the promo video...anyway, I am not sure which version is the 1909 18363.836 as I see a few before the May 2020 version.

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    OK, I did get the 1909 ISO. Thank You but why is that 5GB and would need a DL disk? When I got the 2004 v19041 it fit on a normal DVD. I did specify 64 bit and not both.
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  8. NavyLCDR's Avatar
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    Windows 10 Pro
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    When you get the ISO file with Microsoft's Media Creation Tool, it contains a highly compressed install.esd file. If you get the ISO file using any other method (that I know of), it contains a much less compressed install.wim file.
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  9. RickC's Avatar
    Posts : 525
    Windows 7 + 10
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    MPSAN said:
    OK, I did get the 1909 ISO. Thank You but why is that 5GB and would need a DL disk? When I got the 2004 v19041 it fit on a normal DVD. I did specify 64 bit and not both.
    Ignoring that I always download an English International version with both x32/x64, you can see from my second screenshot above that the 2004 ISO is smaller than the 1909 ISO - all downloaded using the Media Creation Tool.

    Plus, as @NavyLCDR points out, if you don't grab the ISO via the Media Creation Tool at the time that it is current then any other download afterwards (e.g. from Heidoc.net) is going to be bigger.

    (Sorry - can't help with any Enterprise version... never needed one since I retired.)
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  10. Posts : 500
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #10

    Thank you ALL. So I think I may just keep the 2004 version as I only want it if I do something that MS asks for the original disk for. I run regular Reflect images so am not too concerned about not being able to restore. Not sure if I will burn the 1909 on a DL dvd if 2004 is good enough for now.

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    Quick question...

    I found a TRICK to use MediaCreationTool to get the Enterprise ISO from MS. Is there a file I can look at on the DVD that I burned vs the Home Pro DVD to show that it really is the Enterprise version? I did have to enter my key before it downloaded.
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