Windows 10 Will Not Boot Without Old SSD

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  1. sygnus21's Avatar
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    Win 10 Pro (x64) 20H2 (19042.928)
       #41

    sygnus21 said:
    The I've not looked into what Kyhi shows but in the today world the free/trial version is limited. You'll find that out when you try to recover files or read the fine print. Not telling you what I'm guessing I'm going on actual usage.

    But here you go... MiniTool Power Data Recovery License Comparison. I had far more than a gig to recover
    mana10 said:
    I backed up 588GB with the too included with Kyhi.
    Please understand what the programs do before arguing about them - one is a backup/image program the other is a data recovery program - two vastly different tools. Neither does what the other does.... And if @Kyhi was here he'd tell you the same.

    You asked how to recover the lost data off a RAW drive, the answer was a "recovery" program like MiniTools.

    Hope this clarifies
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  2. Posts : 17
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #42

    sygnus21 said:
    Please understand what the programs do before arguing about them - one is a backup/image program the other is a data recovery program - two vastly different tools. Neither does what the other does.... And if ...
    I used the tool to scan my raw drive. It found a bunch of files, I selected the files/directories I wanted to recover, clicked on start and it copied them to an external hard drive. Well, at least that is what I understand under recovery, retrieving files from a broken hard drive.
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  3. Posts : 38,358
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #43

    Please indicate what happened with each:

    a) Marium
    b) rebuildbcd > attrib command
    c) licenses
    d) testdisk
    e) ubuntu
    f) minitool
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  4. Posts : 17
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #44

    zbook said:
    Please indicate what happened with each:
    a) Marium
    b) rebuildbcd > attrib command
    c) licenses
    d) testdisk
    e) ubuntu
    f) minitool
    a) I haven't used this
    b) I am currently doing backups. 400GB to go so it will take a while.
    c) A: Magical Jelly Beans gave me the key for Windows. I am missing it for office. I have about a dozen other programs that require licenses but I think I have all of those. The issue with the Microsoft parts is that I have multiple licenses and I am not sure which one I used on which computer.
    d) & e) I didn't get to this because it started working before that point.
    f) I think that was essential for me, in particular recreating the MBR. It also helped me recover the files on that particular partition which at the end I didn't need. But that would have been extremely helpful.

    Some other notes:
    • HD Tune full error scan and Sea Tools for Windows long generic test did not show any errors on the drive.
    • After my system didn't boot anymore (disk was labeled as RAW) I recreated the MBR using MiniTool Partition Wizard Professional 9.1 that is on Kyhi. Select the DRIVE (not the partition), right click and select rebuild MBR.
    • I used the MiniTool to recover my data from the partition. It takes a good amount of time to scan it. There were about 10 different "folders". Only the first one seemed to have data that was easy to recover but it had pretty all data I was looking for. All the data in the RAW folders and other unfamiliar folders didn't have anything useful (to me).


    After I have finished my backup and get/verify all the licenses I will make another attempt to remove that old SSD. Kind of starting from scratch.
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  5. Posts : 38,358
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #45

    Nice progress.

    Macrium is for making backup images.
    It will fail if it finds problem which is one additional check of the drive.
    If it works it simplifies moving files as it can restore an image on another drive.

    The Mini tool version is important for recovering files.
    What was once free is no longer free with the later versions.

    At some time see if you can boot into safe mode:
    Boot into Safe Mode on Windows 10
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  6. Kyhi's Avatar
    Posts : 3,545
    Windows 3.1 to Windows 10
       #46

    OLD SSD was Disk 0 - most likely set as first Boot device in Bios...
    Removing the old SSD and running "bcdboot C:\Windows /s C: /f BIOS" would of set the proper boot files for the disk
    Then would have had to Set the First Boot Device in the BIOS to that Disk....
    Which was not done... And was the Issue all along........... Which was realized in the first 9 posts...
    So not sure how we got to RAW format -

    Minitool has Partition Wizard & Power Data Recovery
    Minitool Partition Wizard 11 - is a combo of both and recently had a 1 year Pro Giveaway
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  7. Posts : 17
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #47

    Kyhi, I am not quite following what you are saying. Yes, the old SSD was C: before. But after the new installation the new installation was C:. Having said that, the old SSD stayed as Disk 0 and the new SSD was Disk 3. I believe I did change the boot sequence in the BIOS after the new installation but I could be wrong about this. Frankly, I don't recall what the original (so until two days ago) boot sequence was before I started with all of this. Are you saying that the sequence was probably wrong and that messed everything up?
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  8. AddRAM's Avatar
    Posts : 3,832
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       #48

    The sequence shouldn`t have messed up anything, however it is set in the Bios will work, but whichever is boot priority #1 will boot. You`d have to actually change the order if you wanted a certain Disk to be #1.

    Any other drive you want to boot to can be brought up using the Boot Menu, usually brought up by pushing the F8 key (just an example my Asus`s just happen to use F8) then you simply highlight the OS you want to use and press enter.

    About the letter C:, whichever Operating System you are booted into will be named C:, unless you created a Operating System from one that you are currently using, which should never be done in my opinion.
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  9. Winuser's Avatar
    Posts : 6,987
    Windows 10 Pro Insider
       #49

    This is a trick that worked for me a couple of years ago. I was dual booting with 2 versions of Windows 10 on separate HDDs. A Windows Insider update caused both OS's to not boot and everything I tried wouldn't work. What I did was, I made a image of just my C: drive with Macrium. After that I disconnected the second drive and did a clean install of my Windows 10 Insider build and made sure it booted OK. After that I did a Macrium Restore with the Image I made earlier. If you try this just make sure you only restore The C: drive image onto the C: drive partition.
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