Repeated fail upgrade to 1903 => block functional upgrades


  1. Posts : 4
    Windows 10
       #1

    Repeated fail upgrade to 1903 => block functional upgrades


    Dear all,

    Since some months, I fail to update to W10 1903 from 1803. I tried the different methods from FIX: Windows 10 Update 1903 failed to install (Solved) - wintips.org - Windows Tips & How-tos

    It fails with error 0xc1900101

    It is a 12 years old Thinkpad R61, and drivers are not anymore maintained. All my devices are OK (no device with yellow warning in device manager). But difficult to go beyond. I a problem of drivers, I have no clue about which one.

    I especially tried the Method4 with in place upgrade, without more success. I used the WU diagnostic tool: did not helped... Blocks at 60% of the update, then revert to previous version, and get the error 0xc1900101

    Is there a way to get more precise information about what's wrong in my laptop ?

    If not, is there a way to disable the functional updates and keep the Security updates ?

    Help much welcomed !

    Best regards,

    JMF
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  2. dalchina's Avatar
    Posts : 29,978
    Win 10 Pro (1903)
       #2

    Hi, certainly with some older Thinkpads there are no drivers for fingerprint reader e.g. if yours has one, and one other device.

    Diagnosing upgrade failures is uncertain, incredibly time consuming, requires detailed investigation of logs and installed software, and usually has no precise diagnostic outcome.

    I suggest it's not worth the effort for such an old device- running it on Win 10 is, of course, in unspecified territory and at your own risk- as it is for millions.

    You can easily disable Windows Updates and check manually using one of the free utilities.
    E.g. Option 7:
    Enable or Disable Windows Update Automatic Updates in Windows 10

    or WUmgr (Windows Update Manager)
    or Sledgehammer


    Feel free to search the forum for threads attempting to diagnose upgrade failures: see the section after the table here
    Upgrade to Windows 10
    for links to pages with more links on resolving failures with reference to error messages and logs.

    There's a MS utility setupdiag.exe (Google it) that attempts to provide some analysis of logs like setuperr.log, setupact.log

    You can of course perform basic checks on
    - your physical disk (e.g. HD Tune free)
    - your file system (chkdsk)
    - run SFC /SCANNOW

    but it could be a driver issue or security software or...
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  3. Posts : 4
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Thanks Dalchina,

    I will follow your advice and disable the WU, use W10 as is and as a backup OS, and try to use Ubuntu as much a s possible.

    I would have appreciated to have an option to force the Update even if I had to solve the issue for faulty drivers afterward... but it is not an offered option.

    JMF
      My Computer

  4. rvcjew's Avatar
    Posts : 218
    Win 10 Pro x64
       #4

    jmf11 said:
    Thanks Dalchina,

    I will follow your advice and disable the WU, use W10 as is and as a backup OS, and try to use Ubuntu as much a s possible.

    I would have appreciated to have an option to force the Update even if I had to solve the issue for faulty drivers afterward... but it is not an offered option.

    JMF
    You can always image the thinkpad with macrium reflect free and then clean install the 1903 to see if it will even install clean. Before you do any of it Install this Lenovo System Update for Windows 10 (32-bit, 64-bit), 8.1 (32-bit, 64-bit), 8 (32-bit, 64-bit), 7 (32-bit, 64-bit) - Desktop, Notebook, Workstation - CA on your thinkpad if you do not already have it and see if it can find any drivers or see if you have the latest. If it can interface with your model then a clean install and just this app will give you all the relevant drivers that it thinks will work on 10 for the hardware. It is still hit or miss though hence the imaging first as a fallback.
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  5. dalchina's Avatar
    Posts : 29,978
    Win 10 Pro (1903)
       #5

    I would have appreciated to have an option to force the Update even if I had to solve the issue for faulty drivers afterward... but it is not an offered option.
    There is no such thing I'm afraid- when upgrading, either everything is compatible, from partitions and enough space to not having conflicting drivers or programs.

    It's not quite clear if you've actually been offered 1903 via Windows Update. If not, then it would seem MS does not deem your device compatible.

    Note the utilities allow you to scan for updates manually.

    Build 1903 is the last 'good' build (my opinion) as in 1909, file explorer search has been messed up significantly by MS making a change.

    To get a 1903 iso to create a bootable disk to clean install 1903 you can use
    Heidoc iso downloader
    (Google)- but from your reference to 'in-place upgrade' you probably have one.
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  6. Posts : 4
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #6

    Thanks for all your complements.

    Yes I have been offered 1903, and now 1909 also. But both fail at 60% of the upgrade. I did not said that I have a double boot with Ubuntu. A clean install is always the risk to mess everything. I prefer not to try...

    I will give a try to Lenovo System Update for Windows 10 (32-bit, 64-bit), 8.1 (32-bit, 64-bit), 8 (32-bit, 64-bit), 7 (32-bit, 64-bit) - Desktop, Notebook, Workstation - CA

    Thanks for the support,

    JMF
      My Computer

  7. dalchina's Avatar
    Posts : 29,978
    Win 10 Pro (1903)
       #7

    Hi, I reiterate post #2 as the best advice given your very old laptop. Use one of those utilities to stay with 1803.

    (I bought a 2nd hand Thinkpad t440s (specs in My computers below) with Win 10 Pro for £200... decent screen, fingerprint reader, option for SIM, small fixed internal battery and huge other battery - no problems updating).
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  8. Posts : 4
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #8

    Done,

    I have installed WAU Manager and will go that way.

    By the way, LENOVO System Update failed to propose some updates of drivers. I should look for for something like your T440, which seemed really well fitted for 200£ (8Go Ram and 256 Go SSD)

    Thanks for the help ptovided,

    JMF
      My Computer

  9. dalchina's Avatar
    Posts : 29,978
    Win 10 Pro (1903)
       #9

    You're welcome. Lenovo System Update is one of the few manufacturer supplied tools that seems really useful. Even makes BIOS update easy. Naturally the t440s is a bit older now, but ex-business laptops can be quite good value - I bought it for travelling as a smaller quite light laptop (without the huge battery), but it's been in regular use.

    Not keen on the odd touchpad design - the whole thing moves, and no separate buttons.
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