Need Steps for DIY,UEFI,GPT,TPM Win10 home full version installation


  1. Posts : 6
    Windows 10 Home Edition (10.0.18363)
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    Need Steps for DIY,UEFI,GPT,TPM Win10 home full version installation


    Need steps to sequence,of priorities DIY,UEFI,GPT,TPM Win10 full version installation onto same hardware the software belongs to.

    Windows Home Full Version USB updated to 1903.

    I had installed the Win10 home using the gpt choice for from the instalation routine,and selected UEFI boot.However when the op.sys.came up,as seen from Win10 drive utility,the SSD had been formated with NTFS partitions.Thus ignoring what was seen for/from the instation routine.

    With the messages within system information(mobile platform for example),I had ordered and installed a TPM of the mb manufacturer.And for the reason that perhaps the USB win10 might have been corrupt.I went and purchased a second USB Win10 home Full version.:

    ->System Information.
    "Device Encryption Support Reasons for failed automatic device encryption: PCR7 binding is not supported, Hardware Security Test Interface failed and device is not Modern Standby, Un-allowed DMA capable bus/device(s) detected"
    There were several 'unknown' items within the Device Manager,which I 'assume were vanquished with the first Windows Update.

    Installing a TPM,then attempting the same instalation routine.However again doing the UEFI boot for/from BIOS/UEFI.Did the same again. With drives formatted with NTFS.

    Haven't attempted anything further.The machine takes a minute(1 min.) from power up before anything happens.There is first a boot up screen denoting Intels PXE,with a boot menu(only UEFI option is choosing 'network boot'.).Then the SuperMicro Screen which has several options,but alas winds up to a 'legacy boot'. 1 min. 41 sec. total till Win 10 login screen.

    Haven't done anything since 2 try at installation of Win10 home.Have read need to boot the USB in UEFI mode. And need a 'UEFI bootable disk'. Which I assume is the Win10 home installation USB disk.Either a setting in the BIOS(UEFI USB for example),a specific format for the USB disk (as UEFI format recovery,or created .ISO) - or,a choice within the actual Win10 Installation routine.Or all of them. As this question looms within
    during installation prompts somewhere I didn't see with a 'clean..new installation try from the Full Version Win10 Home USB disk.As I did 'boot USB with UEFI,secure boot,CSM disabled.

    Don't know what state the machine is in -a Intel PXE is still seen as a second boot screen,for some reason ,for example.But Boot up at 1 min. 40 secs.as well seeing that my desktop computer has a 'mobile role' shows a little grief.

    Reason haven't done this TPM clearing is,that :

    A.Want UEFI boot to the new SSD.
    B.Require gpt file system
    C.Require TPM installation.
    D.Require steps within Installation of Win10 to correctly implement proper op.sys. installation.UEFI,GPT,TPM. - when installing must do each somehow at correct PRECICE step.At some
    interval within op.sys.software installation.
    ..and identify the BIOS/UEFI controls to do so.If/when changing to UEFI.There is no further prompt
    of choosing a 'boot'device.:within the installation of windows 10.As seen within Bios.After choosing UEFI boot.And changing CSM.
    Example of doing the.. "Boot USB in UEFI mode" to be self explanatory.Is not.And then at what step is a 'cleared TPM,a 'happy Win10 installation ? While the legacy situation I have works,doesn't seem to be acceptable to me. With System Information stats,and 1 min. 40 sec. boot using SSD.
    A few ephemeral DIY true /false qs:
    I.You need a "Microsoft Account'to take advantage of UEFI/TPM/GPT boot ? And/or you can make a 'local account'to utilize the technologies ?
    II.You have to have a TPM to have a UEFI boot usage ?
    III.You have to have an encrypted drive in order to boot with UEFI ?
    - Win10 home does not 'have bitlocker'.Only Win10 pro,and others have bitlocker.
    IV.You can use either TPM -C (clien't) or non client TPMs for UEFI boot.?

    - In the past using a 'domain network',or 'network boot' is not the network scenario configured
    for a home non-server pc.
    V.You must have a wired (NIC) connected computer in order to implement a session of configuring a TPM.?

    - I certainly don't have a mobile pc.Only have wi-fi.
    Look,no wires.
    VI.Once using mbr2gpt.You must boot into UEFI ?.With a 'cleared TPM',if going
    to use it.?
    I have put together only a couple PCs as DIY endeavers in past 10 years.Both with early single CPUs,one AMD,and one Intel.None of the newer 'security technologies'were part of the instalation. I don't know a lot of command line finess.
    The MB has been in the closet since late 2016,and this year Nov 2019 I have just put together the Z170 mb.
    Build info:
    Motherboard: SuperMicro C7Z170-M
    Pwr: EVGA 650 GQ Gold
    CPU: i3-7100 (Kaby Lake with updated bios from G3900 Celeron)
    Memory: 16 GB corsair Vengence 2100 Mhz
    Hardrive(M.2): Samsung 970 pro plus 500gb.
    :Western Digital Blue Sata 500gb
    Case: Antec 3000
    Display: Dell DVI @ 1280x1024

    Opsystem:Win10 Home Edition
    Try 1..recent 2019 Win10 Home
    Try 2..2017 Win10 Home
    and presently shows c2019.

    Microsoft should implement the routine,and prompts. Its installlation of windows on the full version DIY versions for the security technologies.UEFI,TPM,GPT,USBUEFI for same sequence.
    So I need the steps to maximize the included modern boot/security with a DIY Win10 'clean' install (Win10 USB full version USB).Between them,and along with available BIOS/UEFI options with sequence steps.Preferably w/o bricking the build.Note I might have included between A..D to be A..to E. . With A. being to 'clear the cmos'.
    Also note:Present boot up. There is 4 singular beeps.After a silent 40 seconds and no screen. With a final 'beep'.With first 4 in quick procession,after a minute. There is some discretion in deciding what these mean,when at first I thought was a memory trouble.But was booting with 'found drives'. One beep would be fine for me,and I don't know reason the Intel PXE boot screen comes up,with only an option to boot into UEFI utilizing a 'network boot'(maybe a messed up Bios update routine,or,messed up Win10 UEFI installation attempt.).

    Who's doing the counting ? Disk 0,Disk 1 :

    DiskPart,MBR2gpt

    Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.18362.476]
    (c) 2019 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>mbr2gpt /allowfullos /validate
    MBR2GPT: Attempting to validate disk 1
    MBR2GPT: Retrieving layout of disk
    MBR2GPT: Validating layout, disk sector size is: 512 bytes
    MBR2GPT: Validation completed successfully

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>

    ----------------------------------------------

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>mbr2gpt /allowfullos /validate /disk:0
    MBR2GPT: Attempting to validate disk 0
    MBR2GPT: Retrieving layout of disk
    MBR2GPT: Validating layout, disk sector size is: 512 bytes
    Disk layout validation failed for disk 0

    C:\WINDOWS\system32>diskpart

    Microsoft DiskPart version 10.0.18362.1

    Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation.
    On computer: DESKTOP-NL6VFL1

    DISKPART> list disk

    Disk ### Status Size Free Dyn Gpt
    -------- ------------- ------- ------- --- ---
    Disk 0 Online 465 GB 1024 KB
    Disk 1 Online 465 GB 1024 KB

    DISKPART>

    'Properties within "Disk Management " shows
    Disk '0' as the WD disk drive
    Disk '1' as the Samsung 970 evo SSD .

    The SuperMicro MB has some software options,within SuperDoctor a program utilizing Internet to show performance of computer. I had used it with the first installation complete,but the second detailed that the user had quit the program.As I did following a 'sms' is not installed prompt.Course AFTER I had did this the installation routine said SMS.exe was fine.Although Superdoctor would not work,and I uninstalled the program.
    SuperMicro has a lot of 'network'savy lingo,I don't know anything about and usually don't traverse those directions when possible. Wanting only a conclusive 'desktop' to work.
    I'd like also to know about 'being online,or 'Internet connected',while 'clearing TPM'. Microsoft probably wouldn't have a problem renaming it(The TPM).But I probably would.
    Certainly all of different installation scenarios refering to UEFI,GPT,TPM,Win10 installation have been seen.But
    I need steps to sequence,of priorities DIY,UEFI,GPT,TPM Win10 full version installation onto same hardware the software belongs to. Would like to do this with the present install.However re-doing an install is exactly possible.There is a setting within the cz170-m bios to utilize the TPM,to 'only TPM 2'specs.I need both compatible,and operable.With favorable 'attestation'. I read that Microsoft suggests doing this within Windows,NOT within the BIOS/UEFI. BTW I've seen much older computers with larger BIOS 'version'number than what I see for/from SuperMicro.Updated bios,so Im wondering the relevency of the Microsoft 2.3 'bios standard,verses the TPM version #.I can run Kaby lake cpus.However I have left the reserve BIOS cmos as the same following updating it.Showing Version 2.2.

    Doing this correctly is most likely only a few motions which I am looking for.





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  2. Posts : 18,432
    Windows 11 Pro
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    Well, I just boot from the USB flash drive in UEFI mode. When the very first option screen comes up, I press shift + F10. Run:
    diskpart
    sel dis 0
    clean
    exit
    exit

    Then go through and select the custom install option. Disk 0 will be listed as unallocated space. Highlight that, and click next. When the notification comes up that the computer will reboot in 10 seconds, pull out the flash drive and let the computer reboot.
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  3. Posts : 6
    Windows 10 Home Edition (10.0.18363)
    Thread Starter
       #3

    NavyLCDR said:
    Well, I just boot from the USB flash drive in UEFI mode. When the very first option screen comes up, I press shift + F10.
    "Well, I just boot from the USB flash drive in UEFI mode. "

    What are the 'go-to'steps for this,BIOS controlled
    UEFI mode,or 'something within the Win10 instalation routine ?[ ]"

    Step A.,B.,C.,etc.
    Really,is this is one of choosing both 'Clear CMOS',then
    [Bios-USB boot UEFI]. Or both in sequence.

    The UEFI screen is not available as from the Win 10 'restart'
    menu.Seen 'restart.,shift-restart (choose UEFI mode).

    The machine is only the components,and with a power on,the
    task at hand installing the Win10 home.From its full version
    Win10 home USB. BIOS,UEFI controls ect. .

    I haven't seen any prompts to "Boot in UEFI mode" from any
    instructions of the Win10 home,or interface itself while
    running the routine. As a command,or within the interface.

    You have a TPM on your machine ?



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    OrbSmirk said:
    "Well, I just boot from the USB flash drive in UEFI mode. "

    What are the 'go-to'steps for this,BIOS controlled
    UEFI mode,or 'something within the Win10 instalation routine ?[ ]"


    The
    UEFI setting for the
    Installation Media USB itself - is set within the BIOS/Setup. I utilize 'del key' on my machine.

    I disconnected physically any drives which were not the inclusion for the Operating System.Lots of hardware can cause trouble,and in the case of first installing hardware which require drivers etc. . Can be disabled. Or physically removed. Then installed after Win 10 is complete.

    The trick here,as was said by NavyLCDR has something to do with the formatting routine within the Win 10 home installation routine.

    UEFI requires a 'gpt' format - that supports better than 2 terrabytes of NTFS. The format has to have several partitions done within gpt.

    GPT 'should" be utilized within the routine. At my installation, there was no need to utilize the standalone,or command line option within
    the installation routine. Of the program MBR2GPT.exe

    If your WIN10 home installation disk is complete,the gpt is done automatically. Following making sure that the major partition is unallocated space.I had two partitions seen with NTFS. Deleting all down to the 'zero' #'rd partition. Leaving the zero partition .Without using DiskPart. The machine restarted.

    At that TIME, Accessing the BIOS and finding the couple selections included to UEFI - changing them from Legacy,to UEFI. I also did:

    Secure Boot,and Disable CSM - which aids in utilizing the legacy-MBR scenario. This within the BIOS (I use Delete on my machine to access BIOS/setup).

    The USB boot selection within the BIOS was not selected at this time.However the Specific Drive - I utilized 'efi' for its setting.

    Then 'removed the USB' key immediately.Before Windows 10 had started again.

    __________________________________
    The installation scenario is different of course with options depending on the given problem. Reinstall Windows,go into settings,and set a 'refresh'-'clean install. [Trouble with this is there can be several items 'saved'that are incorrectly installed to begin with. Although given the trouble at hand,,a utility from the systems Settings might be only right ].

    I had done this - utilize the 'clean install' from the Settings. However,in My situation with TWO SEPARATE WIN10 software USBs. I did the 'Clean Install ' option. This with the above BIOS sequence/ settings - simply installed that USB as a 'New Installation'. And choosing a Microsoft Account.

    A clean install in UEFI mode,onto the gpt formatted hardrive,with the TPM installed is possible like this.

    ------------------------------------------------------

    Within System Information
    I no longer have the PCR7 binding,or "Device Encryption" support error. seen. UEFI mode is seen within 'boot mode'.

    ....although I do not understand the reason my desktop computers role" : Mobile ? (errg).



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  4. Posts : 31,675
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #4

    OrbSmirk said:
    I had installed the Win10 home using the gpt choice for from the instalation routine,and selected UEFI boot. However when the op.sys.came up,as seen from Win10 drive utility, the SSD had been formated with NTFS partitions.Thus ignoring what was seen for/from the instation routine....
    ...
    B.Require gpt file system

    GPT is not a file system, it it a type of partition table. A disk can only have one type of partition layout, GPT or MBR. An MBR disk can have up to four primary partitions, a GPT disk can have more than that.

    NTFS is a file system, used to format individual partitions on a disk. Windows will use the NTFS file system on any partition it's installed to, whether its on a GPT disk or an MBR one.

    This is a UEFI install with a GPT disk, you can see that it has an NTFS windows partition:

    Need Steps for DIY,UEFI,GPT,TPM Win10 home full version installation-image.png
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  5. Posts : 6
    Windows 10 Home Edition (10.0.18363)
    Thread Starter
       #5

    Bree said:
    GPT is not a file system, it it a type of partition table. A disk can only have one type of partition layout, GPT or MBR. An MBR disk can have up to four primary partitions, a GPT disk can have more than that.

    NTFS is a file system, used to format individual partitions on a disk. Windows will use the NTFS file system on any partition it's installed to, whether its on a GPT disk or an MBR one.

    This is a UEFI install with a GPT disk, you can see that it has an NTFS windows partition:

    Need Steps for DIY,UEFI,GPT,TPM Win10 home full version installation-image.png
    Need Steps for DIY,UEFI,GPT,TPM Win10 home full version installation-thegptfilesystem.png <- was looking at terms related to using MBR2GPT .... (This look ok ?). Here is a link to a Wikipedia query 'GPT". I really don't understand all of that. As I don't understand plenty of command syntax with a given command. Just know the 'command works. As I had at first taken a choice of 'GPT' file system within the Win10 home instalation routine. And there was not a choice to utilize the UEFI,when set up during installation and reboot. When the MBR was utilized.
    I will have to run the MBR2GPT /validate ,.. again (I haven't done),to see if the output is labeled 'GPT'.

    GUID Partition Table

    GUID Partition Table - Wikipedia

    Thanks.Speed reading w/o context.
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  6. Posts : 31,675
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #6

    OrbSmirk said:
    I will have to run the MBR2GPT /validate ,.. again (I haven't done),to see if the output is labeled 'GPT'.

    Your screenshot shows a 100MB EFI partition. This is only created by setup if you have successfully installed in UEFI mode and setup has used the GPT layout for the disk.

    You can confirm the disk is using GPT from a Command Prompt (Admin) using Diskpart. Type the command DISKPART. Then, at the Diskpart prompt, type LIST DISK. There is a * in the Gpt column for any GPT disk.

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  7. Posts : 18,432
    Windows 11 Pro
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    Windows 10 setup will setup the target drive and install Windows for the same type of system (UEFI or legacy BIOS) using the same method the installation media was booted in.

    Boot the installation media (DVD or flash drive) in UEFI mode and Windows setup will set the target disk to GPT with a FAT32 EFI System Partition to boot from.

    Boot the DVD or flash drive in legacy BIOS (CSM) mode and Windows setup will set the target disk to MBR with an NTFS System Reserved partition marked as active to boot from.
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  8. Posts : 6
    Windows 10 Home Edition (10.0.18363)
    Thread Starter
       #8

    Win10 UEFI instalation


    Bree said:
    Your screenshot shows a 100MB EFI partition. This is only created by setup if you have successfully installed in UEFI mode and setup has used the GPT layout for the disk.

    You can confirm the disk is using GPT from a Command Prompt (Admin) using Diskpart. Type the command DISKPART. Then, at the Diskpart prompt, type LIST DISK. There is a * in the Gpt column for any GPT disk.

    Need Steps for DIY,UEFI,GPT,TPM Win10 home full version installation-image.png

    Yeah,I have just done that. I really appreciate your reply. I'll look at continuing specificities as the future continues.
    Im sorry,my elluding to the NTFS 'file system' is a bit synonymous to a task I cannot
    identify.Having looked through several hundred online pages considering those listed
    in the title of my post here at 10forum,I have only still to define the task as singular,
    or several.
    However when looking at the different 'System Informations',which is what I see,and
    what I would like to solve is the consideration of Installation of UEFI Windows10. Not having
    the sequence,or priorities of that instruction ,between BIOS settings and installation routine
    . I have only the result of my combinatory references. Then the different outcomes between the
    'System Informations'seen,before then after the 3rd instalation,and attemptss with BIOS settings.

    The Task At Hand:
    System Information 1 1st install,different CPU,No TPM,No UEFI.
    System Information 3 3rd install,new CPU,TPM,UEFI.

    It is possible that I had just not implemented,the UEFI settings within the SuperMicro
    Bios here. So that it might be said "'the installation routine of Microsoft is 'perfect'".(I had
    gpt to begin with from the first instalation,I just didn't implement the proper settings). There
    is not the indicators seen from the 3rd installation from System Information that the installation
    for 'that task',for which the task was needed.

    I have: Bought New Different CPU
    Updated the BIOS Version from the manufacturer
    Purchased a separate new Win10 home full version
    Purchased a TPM and installed.
    Installed Win10 home 3 times

    ...I might consider the solution as "Set the Installation Media within the BIOS to UEFI
    Boot". We are looking at the results,not exactly the same tasks. While I can say that what is seen
    within my System Information is now more exceptable. If anybody could better name the task then probably
    have as well a better solution. DIY FYI.

    Need Steps for DIY,UEFI,GPT,TPM Win10 home full version installation-101.unallowed-dma-bus-device-detected-pcr7.png Need Steps for DIY,UEFI,GPT,TPM Win10 home full version installation-first-view-uefi.png....
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