Clean Install, no option to create Local Account


  1. Posts : 3,677
    Windows 11 Pro 64 Bit 21H2
       #1

    Clean Install, no option to create Local Account


    I worked around this, but was wondering if any one else saw this before.
    I have a USB Flash drive which I created from Windows 10 64 bit ISO 1903 from Microsoft burned using Rufus as a GPT/UEFI Bios boot device. I have installed Windows 10 on other computers with this drive with no problems.
    Someone gave me a Dell Inspiron 7131R to fix. I put the Flash drive in and pressed f12 and under UEFI boot options, I chose the USB Flash drive. It started to boot to the installer. The Bios held the Windows 10 Home Product key, so the installer started to install Windows 10 Home, if there were no product key, it would have installed Pro. I have installed Pro many times with this installer and was always able to create a Local Account.
    Once it got to the Account part, the only choice was to type in a Microsoft Account, or Create a New Microsoft Account. There was no link in the lower left corner for Offline or Local Account. I tried restarting and kept going back, but the only option was Microsoft Account. I tried new account, but it was for a Microsoft Account.
    I then booted into Setup (Bios) and under Boot menu UEFI, I chose to Delete all UEFI keys. I Saved and Exited. Again, the installer chose Windows 10 Home, so the Bios still had the product key. I did not try to install using Legacy. At the same spot, it only shows Microsoft Account, no Offline or Local account. Is this something that is hardwired into Home version?
    Anyways, even though this laptop is not for me, I typed in my Microsoft User Name Email and Password. After loading to the desktop, I created a Local User with Admin rights then logged out. I logged in as the Local then I delete my Microsoft Profile from the computer.
    A long way around, I am wondering if there was another way to do it, or if this is the way it is in UEFI and Windows 10 Home?
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  2. Posts : 61,836
    64-bit Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
       #2

    Hello mate,

    This is an issue for the Windows Home edition.

    However, when you get to step 24 in the tutorial below while doing a clean install, you can enter a bogus phone number to then have the "Offline account" link option to create a local account.

    Clean Install Windows 10
    Last edited by Brink; 17 Jan 2020 at 14:29.
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  3. Posts : 3,677
    Windows 11 Pro 64 Bit 21H2
    Thread Starter
       #3

    I typed in a bogus phone # and then it wanted my Birthday. I tried to choose that from the numbers it gave, but it wouldn't take the numbers for the Birthdate?
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  4. Posts : 61,836
    64-bit Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
       #4

    You may have thought you typed in a bogus phone number if it's asking for a birthday. LOL

    I find typing 1234567890 works well.
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  5. Posts : 228
    Win 10 Ver 1903
       #5

    Thanks Brink.
    I had no Idea MS had done this and i ran into the same problem! Guess I haven't done a clean install in a while.
    Your Phone works like a charm
    But they still want to know about my pets etc .. Other security items
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  6. Posts : 219
    Win10
       #6

    I have found that you've got to physically disconnect the computer from the internet before performing the install.

    With Win10 Home, the options that Brink has indicated are not there. You -MUST- enter a Microsoft account before installing. That is contrary to my wishes. I like Local Accounts and do not want to be the product. I do not believe that deleting the Microsoft Account after installing it really works. Why would I volunteer my email, my phone number, my name, etc., etc., to MS? I have paid for their product. I do not want my data floating around "the cloud". If they want to monetize my information, they can offer me some payment.

    TL;DR: Physically disconnect/disable any internet connection before the install and you won't be faced with the problem.

    Ken
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  7. Posts : 61,836
    64-bit Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
       #7

    iamc3k said:
    I have found that you've got to physically disconnect the computer from the internet before performing the install.

    With Win10 Home, the options that Brink has indicated are not there. You -MUST- enter a Microsoft account before installing. That is contrary to my wishes. I like Local Accounts and do not want to be the product. I do not believe that deleting the Microsoft Account after installing it really works. Why would I volunteer my email, my phone number, my name, etc., etc., to MS? I have paid for their product. I do not want my data floating around "the cloud". If they want to monetize my information, they can offer me some payment.

    TL;DR: Physically disconnect/disable any internet connection before the install and you won't be faced with the problem.

    Ken
    Hello Ken,

    Do you mean that you were not able to do this at step 24 of a clean install while connected to the Internet?

    I just tested, and was still able to.

    The Windows 10 Home edition does not provide the Offline account link at this step. As a workaround, you can enter a bogus phone number (ex: "1234567890"), and click/tap on Next. The next Confirm your phone number screen will have the Offline account link you can click/tap on instead.

    Last edited by Brink; 17 Jan 2020 at 15:26.
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  8. Posts : 219
    Win10
       #8

    Brink said:
    Hello Ken,

    Do you mean that you were not able to do this at step 24 of a clean install while connected to the Internet?

    I just tested, and was still able to.

    The Windows 10 Home edition does not provide the Offline account link at this step. As a workaround, you can enter a bogus phone number (ex: "1234567890"), and click/tap on Next. The next Confirm your phone number screen will have the Offline account link you can click/tap on instead.

    I do not know. I did not think about a fake phone number (or email account). I assumed whatever contact information I entered would be used to send a verification code. Since that first screen does not show the "Offline Account" option, I stopped the install at that point.

    Ken
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  9. Posts : 61,836
    64-bit Windows 11 Pro for Workstations
       #9

    iamc3k said:
    I do not know. I did not think about a fake phone number (or email account). I assumed whatever contact information I entered would be used to send a verification code. Since that first screen does not show the "Offline Account" option, I stopped the install at that point.

    Ken
    No worries Ken. I just wanted to verify in case I needed to change anything.
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