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  1. Posts : 41,474
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       #11

    Most of the time an in place upgrade repair with the identical version will fix problems related to the operating system.
    Deeper problems with the registry may or may not get fixed.

    Performing an in place upgrade repair where you upgrade the version in contrast fixes deeper problems (operating system and registry).

    The latest Windows version is always a moving target as there are cumulative updates to fix problems.

    The best option is to always have a backup image and that way you can protect important files.
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    If you cannot access the internet on the problematic computer you can make the iso on any computer and save it to a flash drive. It must be a bootable flash drive. So make sure the flash drive that you use has files that you no longer need as it will be formatted and make sure that it is at lease > 8 GB.
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  2. Posts : 42,991
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #12

    A simple rule is that an in-place upgrade repair (or an upgrade/feature update) will fix many general Windows issues, but not those specific to a user profile.

    A possible risk with upgrading to 1809 is that there could be changes in drivers which might have an unexpected effect. That can happen on any upgrade, but is relatively rare.
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  3. Posts : 31,666
    10 Home x64 (22H2) (10 Pro on 2nd pc)
       #13

    zbook said:
    If you cannot access the internet on the problematic computer you can make the iso on any computer and save it to a flash drive. It must be a bootable flash drive. So make sure the flash drive that you use has files that you no longer need as it will be formatted and make sure that it is at lease > 8 GB.
    Actually, in this case you don't need to make a bootable usb, you just need to get a copy of the ISO onto the machine that needs upgrading. Then you can mount the ISO as a virtual drive and run Setup to start the upgrade. The ISO may well be larger than the 4GB maximum file size limit of the Fat32 used on most USBs. It would need to formatted as ntfs or ExFAT first, but after that you'd only need to copy the ISO to the usb.
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  4. Posts : 220
    Windows 10
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       #14

    dalchina said:
    A simple rule is that an in-place upgrade repair (or an upgrade/feature update) will fix many general Windows issues, but not those specific to a user profile.
    A possible risk with upgrading to 1809 is that there could be changes in drivers which might have an unexpected effect. That can happen on any upgrade, but is relatively rare.
    I only have one user profile on the problem computer. I started the download of the 1809 ISO before I saw anyone mention the possible driver issues so I may as well go that way and kill two birds (the upgrade to 1809 and my file I/O problem) with one stone. With any luck, I won't have a driver issue and all will be well at the end of this process.

    If I do encounter a driver issue, I suppose I can just download an 1803 ISO and just "upgrade" (downgrade, really) to that....
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  5. Posts : 42,991
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #15

    No, you can't go backwards like that. The way to protect yourself is to create a disk image of Windows partitions e.g. using Macrium Reflect (free) + large enough external storage for disk image sets.

    Disk imaging and MR are recommended time and time again here. With a disk image, you can restore any imaged disks or partitions to a previous good state.

    I only have one user profile on the problem computer.
    = if there's an problem with that profile, a in-place upgrade repair will almost certainly not correct it.
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  6. Posts : 220
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #16

    dalchina said:
    No, you can't go backwards like that. The way to protect yourself is to create a disk image of Windows partitions e.g. using Macrium Reflect (free) + large enough external storage for disk image sets.

    Disk imaging and MR are recommended time and time again here. With a disk image, you can restore any imaged disks or partitions to a previous good state.

    = if there's an problem with that profile, a in-place upgrade repair will almost certainly not correct it.
    I was afraid you'd say that ;-)

    If I have to wipe the machine and do a full reinstall of Windows and my apps, I'm prepared to do that too, however reluctantly.

    I've seen the advice about making regular backups and I've made some attempts to do that but I always seem to run into a hitch of one kind or another. I mean to ask here about the issue but always seem to have so many things on the go that I never quite get around to it. Then, I have a problem and it's way too late to do that backup. Such is life, at least for me....
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  7. Posts : 42,991
    Win 10 Pro (22H2) (2nd PC is 22H2)
       #17

    He/she who hesitates to back up may well be lost... Sometimes people learn the lesson the hard way. I remember a British English teacher in China who suffered a PC problem being in tears- she had no backups.

    I created a new base image of Windows yesterday- all my hundreds of installed progs and OS - about 60% of a 256 Gb SSD- it took about 4 mins to set up and about 16 mins over USB3 to complete.

    If my SSD failed or I had to do a clean install it would take days of reinstalling programs, some of which I'd lose being giveaways.

    Basically your source disk needs to have no problems (the act of creating an image is itself a sort of check on the integrity of the used part of the disk(s) imaged).

    You can create a bootable MR disk quite easily, so should your PC become unbootable you can boot from that.
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