PIN required for clean install of 17763.107 1809 build

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  1.    4 Weeks Ago #11

    I always use a local account on every computer I set up. I also do not connect to the net and keep the current CU on a flash drive and install it offline.

    I also most of the time set up drivers before connecting to the net.
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  2.    4 Weeks Ago #12

    Dear @ztrucker,

    This password method was introduced in the Insider cycle of 1803 = 3 questions. This method changes our behavior, our passwords mimic.

    It is not a PIN # Z, just a regular password with 3 questions, but maybe now the option is available. To be confirmed!

    Security first, this how it works whether we like it or not.

    Dear@Bree,

    We didn't see any indications to skip the password since then, nor questions.*

    Instead, we change it for a PIN # after the clean install. The main advantage is that NumLock Keyboard is enabled on startup when we set a PIN #.
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       4 Weeks Ago #13

    MikeMecanic said: View Post
    It is not a PIN # Z, just a regular password with 3 questions....

    It's a PIN for a Microsoft Account or three questions for a Local account. If you set up Windows using a Microsoft Account then Setup will insist that you set up a PIN with no option to skip this step.





    Dear@Bree, We didn't see any indications to skip the password since then, nor questions...

    If you use a Local Account to set up Windows once you have set a password you have to add a hint for the password then set up the three questions. There is no option to skip these steps.

    However, if you set a blank password there is (obviously) nothing to forget so Setup will skip asking you to set up a hint or the questions. There is no indication in Setup that this is what it will do if you use a blank password, but that is the way it will work.






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  4.    4 Weeks Ago #14

    However, if you set a blank password there is (obviously) nothing to forget so Setup will skip asking you to set up a hint or the questions. There is no indication in Setup that this is what it will do if you use a blank password, but that is the way it will work.
    That is what I do for all installs. Blank/no password just click next.
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  5.    4 Weeks Ago #15

    Thanks for replying Bree,

    We knew about skipping password, but will* try the PIN# option later today.

    It is the 3 questions that we would like to skip. If we override the password by a PIN# after the clean install, <<security>>reminders are not helpful.

    Will take a close look at blank password incidence on our third .107 clean install...

    Regards,
    Mike
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       4 Weeks Ago #16

    MikeMecanic said: View Post
    It is the 3 questions that we would like to skip.... Will take a close look at blank password incidence on our third .107 clean install...
    Oh, it will work. I routinely used a local account and a blank password for my test installs. I actually had to do an install and set a password to find out what all the fuss was about when the 'three questions' step was first introduced.

    You can always set a password once you have signed in for the first time, so there's no security risk in leaving it blank at first.
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       4 Weeks Ago #17

    Porthos said: View Post
    That is what I do for all installs. Blank/no password just click next.
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  8.    4 Weeks Ago #18

    AddRAM said: View Post
    Yeah this is what I have done also ever since I figured out how to skip all the MS crap!
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  9.    4 Weeks Ago #19

    Yeah, you wonder what they are, were thinking sometimes?
    In Enterprise and Education you can't use a Microsoft account. It will only accept and Azure / Office 365 account or Local account.
    If you use a Local "and" enter a password you "have" to answer the three security questions? "To help improve the security of your device". Or "use no password" and skip the questions.
    You can switch to a Microsoft Account "like in any other edition" once you log in though.
    I haven't been forced to use a PIN though, not yet anyway.
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  10.    4 Weeks Ago #20

    Passwords Loop: Gone With The Wind


    Indeed, blank password eliminates the questions pattern. Because of that, the PIN# password is not selectable after the clean install.

    We must create one in order to enable the PIN#. At least, the 3 questions are gone now:)

    Thanks for help,
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