Setting up Windows boot manager to boot from SSD as secondary drive

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  1. Posts : 40
    Windows 8.1/10 Enterprise x64
    Thread Starter
       #11

    NavyLCDR said:
    Bcdboot E:\Windows
    Change the E: to whatever drive letter the new Windows partition gets. Then reboot.
    Actually it's A: so I would use Bcdboot A:\Windows
    If anything screws up, will I be able to restore BCD to boot Windows from old drive?

    Edit: so I used bcdboot twice to update boot manager
    bcdboot A:\Windows
    bcdboot C:\Windows

    Code:
    Windows Boot Manager
    --------------------
    identifier              {bootmgr}
    device                  partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume2
    path                    \EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi
    description             Windows Boot Manager
    locale                  en-us
    inherit                 {globalsettings}
    badmemoryaccess         Yes
    default                 {current}
    resumeobject            {601b1f59-e1a1-11e8-87b9-54bef771218b}
    displayorder            {current}
                            {601b1f58-e1a1-11e8-87b9-54bef771218b}
                            {55a648fa-2d93-11e5-84ab-806e6f6e6963}
                            {55a648fb-2d93-11e5-84ab-806e6f6e6963}
                            {55a648fc-2d93-11e5-84ab-806e6f6e6963}
    toolsdisplayorder       {memdiag}
    timeout                 30
    
    Windows Boot Loader <== on old HDD
    -------------------
    identifier              {current}
    device                  partition=C:
    path                    \Windows\system32\winload.efi
    description             Windows 8.1
    locale                  en-us
    inherit                 {bootloadersettings}
    badmemoryaccess         Yes
    isolatedcontext         Yes
    allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075
    osdevice                partition=C:
    systemroot              \Windows
    resumeobject            {601b1f59-e1a1-11e8-87b9-54bef771218b}
    nx                      OptIn
    bootmenupolicy          Standard
    detecthal               Yes
    
    Windows Boot Loader <=== on SSD
    -------------------
    identifier              {601b1f58-e1a1-11e8-87b9-54bef771218b}
    device                  unknown
    path                    \Windows\system32\winload.efi
    description             Windows 8.1
    locale                  en-us
    inherit                 {bootloadersettings}
    badmemoryaccess         Yes
    isolatedcontext         Yes
    allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075
    osdevice                unknown
    systemroot              \Windows
    resumeobject            {601b1f57-e1a1-11e8-87b9-54bef771218b}
    nx                      OptIn
    bootmenupolicy          Standard
    detecthal               Yes
    and in system advanced properties (startup and recovery), I changed the default OS to the Windows on SSD which is second entry.
    It's not bootable, boot menu is lost and I must switch to different OS by F9, then I'm able to at least boot from old drive.
    This seems that just cloning the system partitions to second drive and making new boot manager entry for it is not enough.
    Last edited by Anakunda; 06 Nov 2018 at 03:28.
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  2. Samuria's Avatar
    Posts : 6,030
    windows 10
       #12

    You need to clone UEFI drive c and system reserved that is why right at the start I said to make sure the drive boots before messing
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  3. Posts : 40
    Windows 8.1/10 Enterprise x64
    Thread Starter
       #13

    Oh I didn't understand what you mean by clone UEFI drive.
    I think the bootmgr entries are now valid, just the clone is not adjusted to operate on different physical drive.
    So if I ask so, Is it possible to make system partition clone with all adjustments to run from different drive?
    (I really want to keep the old system for a while as a boot alternative for safe return)
    I think Paragon HDM offers P2P adjust which is exactly what I need, but can't use it together with SSD connected.
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  4. NavyLCDR's Avatar
    Posts : 15,502
    Windows 10 Pro
       #14

    Here's a thought. Swap the physical positions of the SSD and HDD. Mount the SSD in the internal spot where the HDD is and mount the HDD in the optical drive bay adapter.

    Probably the way it should have been done originally.
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  5. Samuria's Avatar
    Posts : 6,030
    windows 10
       #15

    Can you post a screenshot from disk management from both drives so we can see the situation in stead of guessing
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  6. Posts : 40
    Windows 8.1/10 Enterprise x64
    Thread Starter
       #16

    Thanks all for trying help but the SSD drive seems to have unspecified HW failure as most partitioning tasks end up with I/O error, which might be the source of my migration problems. If I'll resolve the hardware side, I'll get back to it.
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  7. Posts : 2
    Windows 10 and 7
       #17

    Very timely thread, I have a almost identical problem:

    I'm running Windows 10 on a Dell laptop which has a 500 GB SSD and 1 TB HD. Right now the 1 TB HD is my boot drive and, using Macrium Reflect Free, I've created a clone on the 500 GB SSD. Now I want to make the SSD bootable so when I start up the laptop I can pick which drive to boot from. I'll do weekly updates to the clone. That way if I have a HD crash, I can immediately reboot to the clone disk. I've set this up on another laptop running Windows 7 and it works great. But I've had nothing but problems trying to do the same thing on this i7 running Windows 10. Unfortunately since this is a laptop I cannot simply swap HD cables. Any other suggestions as to how to make sure a drive is "bootable"?
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  8. AndreTen's Avatar
    Posts : 23,266
    Windows 10 (Pro and Insider Pro)
       #18

    Anakunda said:
    Oh I didn't understand what you mean by clone UEFI drive.
    I think the bootmgr entries are now valid, just the clone is not adjusted to operate on different physical drive.
    So if I ask so, Is it possible to make system partition clone with all adjustments to run from different drive?
    (I really want to keep the old system for a while as a boot alternative for safe return)
    I think Paragon HDM offers P2P adjust which is exactly what I need, but can't use it together with SSD connected.
    I've done this with Macrium, more than once. Save system Image and restore it to other drive. Booting is still from original, second system was added by Macrium boot fix.

    If/when you resolve hardware problems, try something like this. Cloning could bring you problems (like others stated).

    Edit: this goes for @gobigkahuna too. Don't use clone, Use Image and restore.
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  9. Posts : 2
    Windows 10 and 7
       #19

    AndreTen said:
    ...Edit: this goes for @gobigkahuna too. Don't use clone, Use Image and restore.
    That did it, I now have identical drives that I can boot from. Awesome thanks! I spent 2 weeks going back and forth with Macrium and Microsoft tech support and never got an answer that worked. My first post in this forum and I get awesome help with a solution! Thanks again!
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  10. AndreTen's Avatar
    Posts : 23,266
    Windows 10 (Pro and Insider Pro)
       #20

    gobigkahuna said:
    That did it, I now have identical drives that I can boot from. Awesome thanks! I spent 2 weeks going back and forth with Macrium and Microsoft tech support and never got an answer that worked. My first post in this forum and I get awesome help with a solution! Thanks again!
    Glad it worked!
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