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  1. Compumind's Avatar
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       #21

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    I would rather it was off by default and be prompted / asked if I wanted to go that route. Just personal choice really. Now that I know its there, I just disable it. Some stuff you still have to type in anyway.


    Exactly my feelings.
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  2. IAmNoOne's Avatar
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       #22

    Compumind said: View Post
    Perhaps you should think a bit before you speak.

    Just so happens that the webcam in question was on a shelf, not in plain sight.
    Your remark is very critical, IMHO.

    Sorry that by your standards, I am imperfect.

    i'm talking about the mic button on the screen, but you knew that
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       #23

    IAmNoOne said: View Post
    i'm talking about the mic button on the screen, but you knew that
    Thats a very small icon down at the bottom of the screen. And easily overlooked IMHO. If you're used to the usual setup menu your not going to look down there, your just interested in answering the prompts and getting on with your setup. Especially if there is no sound to clue you in that its an assisted install.
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    cereberus said: View Post
    I still do not see that as sufficient justification to change the default. Most PCs use internal speakers and they are on during installation.

    This is a bit of a special case i.e. using external speakers and having them turned off.
    This is definitely not the case. Very few modern desktop systems have internal speakers. I think some visual clue on the screen is a good idea. Redundant in most cases perhaps but not annoyingly so and very useful for those it would help. Think of the cases where sound doesn't work because of driver problems, not just having the speakers turned off or volume down very low.
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    Ztruker said: View Post
    This is definitely not the case. Very few modern desktop systems have internal speakers. I think some visual clue on the screen is a good idea. Redundant in most cases perhaps but not annoyingly so and very useful for those it would help. Think of the cases where sound doesn't work because of driver problems, not just having the speakers turned off or volume down very low.
    Yep - brain not in gear. Too usedcto laptops.

    Anyway, MS will not change it, so all academic.
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       #26

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    Especially if there is no sound to clue you in that its an assisted install.
    if there is no sound it also isn't picking up what you're saying, so no misunderstanding you. as for "looking" down there you should always look at every thing on the screen before proceeding.
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    IAmNoOne said: View Post
    if there is no sound it also isn't picking up what you're saying, so no misunderstanding you. as for "looking" down there you should always look at every thing on the screen before proceeding.
    Ah, the speakers were off, but the MIC was on. It did pick up what they were saying, he clearly stated that in the first post.
    I can turn my external speakers off with the volume control on the speakers, and windows will keep sending audio out of my sound card. It has no idea they are powered off, they are still detected as plugged in.
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  8. Compumind's Avatar
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       #28

    What Microsoft did was an innocent thing.

    It is easy to correct on the next build, should they so desire.
    You don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand the problem.

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       #29

    IAmNoOne said: View Post
    sorry but any one with any sense turns that mic off as soon as that screen comes up, ESPECIALLY if you are being paid to install windows. the VAST majority of us know this.
    I'm not one of the vast majority but I have re-installed Windows for family and friends.
    --- I haven't seen the issue mentioned yet
    --- It's nice to know things but is there a tutorial, website or thread that explains that?
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  10. Compumind's Avatar
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    MeAndMyComputer said: View Post
    I'm not one of the vast majority but I have re-installed Windows for family and friends.
    It's nice to know things but is there a tutorial, website or thread that explains that?
    You're reading it. Just mute the onscreen microphone (icon) when you have to enter some settings.
    Also, this link is a good walkthrough until you get to the VR point when the microphone is enabled.

    Clean Install Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials


    This whole thread is just a heads-up.

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