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Windows 10 (x64) Education Edition - What is it?
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No, stock install with defaults chosen during OOBE. *Some settings are hidden or managed by your company - Windows 10 Forums
If I do a change product key right now and switch to Education, they are all there, where detailed in my linked to thread. Change back to Pro or any other Edition and they are gone again.
I've done clean installs with several builds and its the same deal, they only show up in the Education Edition. I have no idea why? I even asked why on Microsoft's private Yammer group and got no answers?
Just wondering if its only me? Or something to do with My Visual Studio Subscription ISO's or something?
They weren't there initially the first time I ran Education, only showed up after a new build came out.This all happened after I upgraded from the AU to the CU.
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Hmm...
Something in here is the key to the solution. Lot's of posts around, but no definitive solutions that I can find.
Like I said, I'm running W10 Pro and I have this:
More things for MS to fix....
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Windows update is one screen I don't have that message on. Not normally anyway. It will likely show up when a reboot is required to finish an update. I have active hours set. Right now there is no "view configured update policies" option showing on that screen.
I just did a change product key and switched to Education, message is back in all the places I listed in my other thread. It doesn't really impact anything I do on this PC, just an annoyance really.
I don't want to sidetrack your thread, was just wondering if anybody else is seeing that message in more than one place. I see it in Pro etc on the Windows Update page just about every crash Tuesday.
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Just FYI running rsop.msc doesn't show any configured policies. And looking at All Settings in the Group Policy Editor shows them all as not configured.
Getting back to the original question, other than my annoyance some settings messages, I haven't noticed any difference between Education and any other Edition (other than Home) that I run. Not the way I use my PC anyway.
If you get it via an Organization it may be VL activated. If so they own it, the license that is. They can stop activation any time they want.
If its activated with a Retail Key it will get a Digital License which is basically forever. It will be tied to that device.
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I get that "Some settings are managed by your organisation" in Pro, too, in case I have used a volume licensing MAK key to activate, or even when using normal retail key if I sign in to Windows using any organisational Azure AD account, or have joined device to a AD domain or Azure AD.
Signing in to retail key activated Windows with a local or Microsoft account and not joining AD domain or Azure AD, only adding Azure AD accounts in Settings > Accounts > Email & Accounts as additional accounts, I do not get that notification.
Makes it logical, at least in my opinion.
Kari
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My Enterprise Installs were originally installed and activated with a MAK key, its was my only option. They all activate with a Digital License now, even on a clean install with a skip entering a key. Same deal with my Education installs. I haven't manually entered a MAK in a long time. Not since MAK keys started getting a DL. I may have done one Education install with a Retial key, first one. Once I discovered my Enterprise MAK keys were getting a DL I used my Education MAK instead of a retail key.
MAK isn't actually a Volume License key though, at least I don't think it is? Its in leu of a VL key, but activates one time like a retail key does. They didn't always get a DL, originally it would show as "activated with a product code', then latter on switched to "activated with a Digital License". Forget what build did that.
Anyway, other than the numerous entries in Education, the only place I see it in any other Edition is in Windows update. And only on patch Tuesday if a reboot is required. Once I reboot and do a manual check for updates the message disappears. I only ever use a Microsoft Account or local account, makes no difference which one I use. Just one of those Windows things that leaves me scratching my head wondering why?
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Quote from Volume licensing - WikipediaMicrosoft has been engaged in volume licensing since its inception, as the enterprise sector is its primary market. With the release of Windows XP in 2001, Microsoft introduced Microsoft Product Activation, a digital rights management (DRM) scheme to curb software piracy among consumers by verifying the user's entitlement to the product license. At the time, however, the volume-licensed versions of Windows XP were exempt from this measure.
Starting with Windows Vista, Microsoft introduced two volume licensing methods for IT professionals in charge of installing Windows in organizations, both of which are covered by Microsoft Product Activation: The first is Multiple Activation Keys (MAK), which are the same as Windows XP's volume licensing keys but require product activation. The second is Key Management Server (KMS) and its corresponding keys. Hosts activated via a KMS have to report back to a software license server once every 180 days.
Licenses using these schemes can be procured via the Microsoft Software Assurance program.
Kari
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Ok, let me clarify what I had meant to convey. As far as I know, they don't have to reactivate over and over like KMS keys do, thats all. When "I" think about your normal Volume License key I think KMS thats all. They don't keep pinging a KMS server, you just activate the one time like a Retail key does. Sorry for the confusion. I think I need another cup of java, lol.
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MAK keys are used for volume licensing, activating multiple devices with one single key. That was my point. They are very clearly volume licensing keys.
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