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  1. NavyLCDR's Avatar
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    sportflyer said: View Post
    It shows my SSD and yes Optimize works . Should I leave it on or should I turn it off. Some suggests turning off auto optimization . BTW should I also optimize the System Reserved?
    You should leave optimization turned on as long as the drive is identified correctly as an SSD. You can try to optimize the System Reserved partition - it won't hurt anything.

    sportflyer said: View Post
    Can you give me idea how to do this with just minitool partition wizard? Tks
    In MiniTool Partition Wizard Free, right click on the partition you want to do something with and from the menu, select what you want to do with it. Delete the unwanted partitions first, then move/resize the other partitions to resize them to fill in the unallocated space. Don't forget to hit the "Apply" button.
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    NavyLCDR said: View Post
    You should leave optimization turned on as long as the drive is identified correctly as an SSD. You can try to optimize the System Reserved partition - it won't hurt anything.


    In MiniTool Partition Wizard Free, right click on the partition you want to do something with and from the menu, select what you want to do with it. Delete the unwanted partitions first, then move/resize the other partitions to resize them to fill in the unallocated space. Don't forget to hit the "Apply" button.
    OK will leave optimization on.
    I think I know what to do . Watched a video on how to move /resize the partitions .

    a) I have to delete the three partitions on left side ( Recovery, system, C drive ) creating unallocated space.
    b) Then resize the G partition and move it completely to the left of the unallocated space .
    c) hit apply button
    d) Repeat with partition H ...safer to do it one step at a time ?

    I suppose nothing happens if I dont hit the apply button? To to exit without applying?

    Tks
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  3. EyeInTheSky's Avatar
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       #63

    sportflyer said: View Post
    It shows my SSD and yes Optimize works .
    Just out of curiosity, how old is your system? Mine is about 10 years old and I'm only able to run in IDE (Legacy mode) and I'm half way to getting optimization to work. It took me forever to figure out how to get my system to recognize my drive as a SSD; but, the optimize button is greyed out on my optimization GUI:

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    I thought I read earlier in the thread that you were running in IDE mode as well, and was curious as to what your optimization GUI looks like. If you could please post a picture of what your optimization GUI looks like, I would most appreciate it.


    Also, a comparison picture of your device manager would help as well. I'm particularly interested in what your section looks like that I have high-lighted in mine:


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    Thanks for your time, and glad you got it working!
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  4. Caledon Ken's Avatar
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       #64

    Nothing wrong with using Minitool Partition to move things around but have a backup.
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    NavyLCDR said: View Post
    You should leave optimization turned on as long as the drive is identified correctly as an SSD. You can try to optimize the System Reserved partition - it won't hurt anything.
    In MiniTool Partition Wizard Free, right click on the partition you want to do something with and from the menu, select what you want to do with it. Delete the unwanted partitions first, then move/resize the other partitions to resize them to fill in the unallocated space. Don't forget to hit the "Apply" button.
    Done with mini tool partition wizard. It was quite easy and fast because I had to move only a small partition after resizing. Disc 3 was the one I manipulated.


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    EyeInTheSky said: View Post
    Just out of curiosity, how old is your system? Mine is about 10 years old and I'm only able to run in IDE (Legacy mode) and I'm half way to getting optimization to work. It took me forever to figure out how to get my system to recognize my drive as a SSD; but, the optimize button is greyed out on my optimization GUI:

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    I thought I read earlier in the thread that you were running in IDE mode as well, and was curious as to what your optimization GUI looks like. If you could please post a picture of what your optimization GUI looks like, I would most appreciate it.


    Also, a comparison picture of your device manager would help as well. I'm particularly interested in what your section looks like that I have high-lighted in mine:


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    Thanks for your time, and glad you got it working!
    Sony Vaio was quite old I think more than 10 years . The bios is very limited . Nothing much to configure. Originally came with Windows 7 . Here are the pictures you requested.

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    Basically same as yours with exception that optimzation for SSD is not grayed out . I set it for weekly optimization.
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  7. EyeInTheSky's Avatar
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    sportflyer said: View Post
    Sony Vaio was quite old I think more than 10 years . The bios is very limited . Nothing much to configure. Originally came with Windows 7 . Here are the pictures you requested.

    Basically same as yours with exception that optimzation for SSD is not grayed out . I set it for weekly optimization.

    Thanks for the follow-up. So essentially you are running in IDE mode on a computer as old or a little older than mine and you got optimization to work. That just isn't fair darn it. I cannot for the life of me figure out why my serial controllers on my SATA port are not supporting TRIM on my system.


    If I do try to update those controllers, I found out the hard way that Microsoft Storage Controllers replace my current Serial ATA Controllers and I'm back to the system thinking I have a HDD installed.


    It just doesn't make sense how some are running a computer as old or older than mine in IDE mode and having the TRIM function available and I cannot. I'm stumped.
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    EyeInTheSky said: View Post
    Thanks for the follow-up. So essentially you are running in IDE mode on a computer as old or a little older than mine and you got optimization to work. That just isn't fair darn it. I cannot for the life of me figure out why my serial controllers on my SATA port are not supporting TRIM on my system.


    If I do try to update those controllers, I found out the hard way that Microsoft Storage Controllers replace my current Serial ATA Controllers and I'm back to the system thinking I have a HDD installed.


    It just doesn't make sense how some are running a computer as old or older than mine in IDE mode and having the TRIM function available and I cannot. I'm stumped.
    Cant help you there as I am not an expert in this. Perhaps NavyLCDR or Caledon Ken can help you .

    Originally I was planning to update my bios to hopefully get ACHI function but I cant find any at the Sony website. You maybe able to find updates at one of the bios websites ( https://biosagentplus.com/ )but you have to pay for the download and then you have to trust that they are the right ones so I decided to leave it alone and go with IDE controllers
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  9. EyeInTheSky's Avatar
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    sportflyer said: View Post
    Cant help you there as I am not an expert in this. Perhaps NavyLCDR or Caledon Ken can help you .

    Originally I was planning to update my bios to hopefully get ACHI function but I cant find any at the Sony website. You maybe able to find updates at one of the bios websites ( https://biosagentplus.com/ )but you have to pay for the download and then you have to trust that they are the right ones so I decided to leave it alone and go with IDE controllers
    I got it. I'm going to have to go back to another thread and show some folks how I did it.

    Thanks to you, because when you posted your device manager, I was able to see that I was missing something important.

    Here is what my device manager looks like now:

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    And finally my optimization GUI allows me to run the TRIM command now:

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    Again, thank you for starting this thread and most of all, thank you for posting your device manager. That really helped me to see what was wrong with mine.

    I can't go to AHCI, so I had to stick with IDE (LEGACY) as well since my BIOS is no longer supported either.


    I can now attest that IDE does in fact support TRIM, it just took me three days to figure it out darn it!

    Oh by the way, these are the instructions I found that fixed my problem:

    Below is useful information for SSD users with NVIDIA motherboards because even though Trim is enabled, some NVIDIA nForce motherboards do not always send the TRIM command for SSDs.
    You can uninstall the NVIDIA controller though in Device Manager and install Microsoft's IDE Controller, which can send TRIM commands for SSDs.

    1. Head to Device Manager (Open Start menu, type Device Manager)
    2. Click "IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers", and you will see 3 NVIDIA Serial ATA Controllers.
    3. Right click one of them and click "Properties"
    4. Go to the "Driver" tab and click "Update Driver".
    5. Click "Browse my Computer", and then "Let me pick".
    6. You should see the option to choose "Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller". Click this, click "Next" and let it install.
    Do the same for the other two NVIDIA Controllers in Device Manager and restart your system. After the controllers have installed, you might be asked to reboot again, so please do so.

    Your SSDs should now have a performance boost with the TRIM command enabled, and from reports I have heard, you can also use the TRIM command with regular HDDs to experience a slight increase in performance as well.
    Last edited by EyeInTheSky; 30 Aug 2018 at 11:53. Reason: Added instructions.
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  10. Caledon Ken's Avatar
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       #70

    Well a happy ending all the way round.

    Beauty of the forum, we discuss, we share, we all learn something.
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