1803 update fails again. How do I kill it?

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  1. Posts : 582
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    Please confirm that you tried the Update Assistant.

    Ben
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  2. Posts : 1,345
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       #12

    Ben Myers said:
    Please confirm that you tried the Update Assistant.
    Ben
    Ben I agree with you 100% and should have included your recommendation.
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  3. bru
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       #13

    Ben Myers said:
    Please confirm that you tried the Update Assistant.

    Ben
    I tried everything that MS recommends including that. Check disc, Snannow, DISM, all come up no issues. There's a thread but honestly there isn't much else to do but a clean install which I will not do at this point. And a local computer shop? I hope that was a joke. For a lousy upgrade that MS screwed up? I don't think so.
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    bru said:
    I tried everything that MS recommends including that...
    My preferred method to perform an upgrade is to download the ISO and use that to do an in-place upgrade. Have you tried that?

    The ISO can be downloaded using the Media Creation Tool, available at Download Windows 10. Run the MCT and choose 'make media for another PC'. Then mount the ISO and run the Setup you'll find there. This method can often work where windows update or the download assistant fail.

    Download Windows 10 ISO File

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  6. Posts : 1,345
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    bru said:
    I tried everything that MS recommends including that. Check disc, Snannow, DISM, all come up no issues. There's a thread but honestly there isn't much else to do but a clean install which I will not do at this point. And a local computer shop? I hope that was a joke. For a lousy upgrade that MS screwed up? I don't think so.
    "I hope that was a joke" Please it wasn't: I suppose I could have been put that into perspective but here goes: the people I help are not capable of advanced methods to deal with their situations but usually want it done NOW. There's more to that story but I'll need to be more careful from now on into including a story of sorts.

    On the "For a lousy upgrade that MS screwed up", although that has happened sometime, I'm not convinced that is the case on your computer yet especially since what I've personally seen in some "failing updates" that eventually come through.
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  7. Posts : 1,366
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       #17

    bru said:
    And a local computer shop? I hope that was a joke. For a lousy upgrade that MS screwed up? I don't think so.
    Let's be clear, once more. It shouldn't need to be stated at this point, but if the upgrade fails, 99.9% of the time, it is due to something on your system that isn't "right". It could be an old driver, a corruption in the system files, etc. If MS screwed up the update, as you said, everyone would have issues.

    If the upgrade is failing, it means you have something to resolve on your system before trying again. Sometimes, the clean install is necessary because it resolves the underlying issue preventing the upgrade from going on in the first place. With a little planning and knowledge, a clean install is a simple process towards getting the new OS and having a system running more efficiently than ever before.+
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  8. bru
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    DeaconFrost said:
    Let's be clear, once more. It shouldn't need to be stated at this point, but if the upgrade fails, 99.9% of the time, it is due to something on your system that isn't "right". It could be an old driver, a corruption in the system files, etc. If MS screwed up the update, as you said, everyone would have issues.
    edit: I should also say I tried to install after a Clean Boot which should have eliminated the issues that you mention, if they did exist. It still failed.

    Plenty are having problems with 1803 when they never had problems before. So MS decided a bare bones computer that has had zero issues upgrading in the past now has "an old driver, a corruption in the system files, etc." ?

    Well like I said EVERY system check I have run (chkdisk, DISM, scannow) comes up with no errors. So does that rule out corruption? There have been NO new drivers added, updated, etc. since 1709 installed just fine. Does that rule out an old driver? Apparently MS has decided that 1803 can't install even though 1709 did and nothing on the computer has changed. Nothing. That's what it seems to me is the issue.
    Last edited by bru; 21 Jun 2018 at 19:15.
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  9. Posts : 1,366
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    bru said:
    edit: I should also say I tried to install after a Clean Boot which should have eliminated the issues that you mention, if they did exist. It still failed.
    Hardware issues, corrupt downloads, etc. Still plenty of reasons for this to happen. Again, logically speaking, if the update itself was the problem, everyone would have the issue. There are plenty of people who have issues anytime an OS has an upgrade. Ask Apple users how their's go. You can point the finger at Microsoft all you want, but that isn't going to solve the real issue.
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  10. Posts : 848
    Windows 10 LTSC
       #20

    There are more than hardware issues, driver incompatibility, corrupt downloads, etc reason for the update to fail. This is a normal cycle even way back Windows 7. You can do as Bree said or re-install the OS with the latest ISO build.
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