Free W10 upgrade

hennmann · 08 Apr 2018

Very stable with better graphics but being dual boot I still use 7 and 10 is a disappointment with how damn "appy" it makes this netbook appear! It's a computer not a smart phone!!!

Also as some have asked between Home and Pro, Pro gives you a bit more control on what you can enable or disable and an example of this is for updates, software is fed out of your box back into the line like BitTorrent. There is much unwanted crap running in the background and don't get me wrong about 7 as I never liked how much of a pig it is! I hated Vista because it brought my socket 939 down to a snails pace and 7 is just a sweeter tasting lemon!

We or should I say Microsoft is dropping the ball on what customers want and by this I mean there are many Linux flavours that are extremely lite and more are becoming this way. Take my Acer at originally 1gb of Ram and the N455 always had the blue circle of sloth as I call it forcing me to upgrade the RAM to 2 gb which is max so the story goes. This reduced the sloth circle a bit and the SSD helped some more. Win 10 is like what it used to be. I could purchase a newer netbook or laptop but why should I have to??

This Acer is gently used and still looks brand new. Back to the Linux lite, one fellow was walking into our local recycle depot which is obviously getting newer and better hardware than I have with an HP OmniBook XE3 in mint condition but the battery is shot.

Anyway he gave it to me instead of letting it get busted up and scrapped. It is mint but it has a PIII 800 with 128 megs of RAM and a massive 28gb HHD. Anyway let's test it and it works fine with Windows 2000 Pro but let's try the same hardware with Puppy Linux 4.3.1. Well it was slow but extremely stable in the "live" format because the entire system is running in 128 megs of RAM!

Well I figured why do I want to run a puter on a thumb drive so I partitioned th HD and set up a substantial Swap partition to use as RAM and directly installed 4.3.1 on the HD giving a fighting chance. What a difference considering that the 2002 HD is a 4500 RPM instead of 5400 or 7200 but it performs amazing with smooth fast boot, run, and shutdown. Yes it is somewhat of a snail compared to 2018 but THINK of what Puppy would do on the Acer? In that case the puppy would be a Greyhound. I can also use a newer fancier version as well.

I hung onto XP til the bitter end and 7 is going this way as well but instead of making things more efficient we are forced to throw away money and hardware! Microsoft mentions that Win10 Pro and Education are eligible for 10S so okay let's install Pro on the Acer and install the installation tool as I did. Much time passed and after all of this, all it did was update my early ISO I used to install Win 10 with my purchased Pro,Home,education key to the latest version of Pro. Pretty sad wanting to downgrade at the expense of Pro to 10S and still stuck with bloat!

If you want an education look at the NLite forums and forums of other ISO mod software and see how much they are stripping out in anger. And then there is the software designed to make 10 look like 7. One program I believe is called Decrapifier. Because of what is happening I will leave 7&10 on my Acer and install a Linux Lite version on my 3rd partition of my newly installed SSD and attempt to learn the CLI as another option.

slicendice · 08 Apr 2018

@hennmann

Hahah, yes I understand how you feel and agree with most (if not all) of what you just said.

But I've learned to live with Win10 and won't be returning back to 7 nor XP. Linux however is a completely different story. Possible to setup a µLinux distro taking about 10MB HDD space and 32MB of RAM. Do that with Windows. Not even Win10 IoT can get even close to that. And then there are OSes that fit on a single 1.44" floppy and can run full Desktop environment with web browsers and all (well the browser takes up an additional floppy, but who cares) :)

hennmann · 08 Apr 2018

I used to have a 286 with Win 3.1 and the HD was in megs not gigs. The Linux CLI sent me running at 90 miles per hour with my hair on fire and to the point of using Hackintosh on my Dell Dimention 4600 but then I figured why waste time with perpetual patch and hope and a damn proprietary CLI on closed source UNIX based OS and just use better free Linux and learn it as well and leave Windows on another partition for the few things that cannot be run properly on Linux until I fully understand Linux and use it as my primary OS. If Windows doesn't listen to what their customers want find alternatives is the way I feel now. It looks like Microsoft is following the mentality of Apple where to keep things "Legal" you must pay 3-4 times for hardware.

Bree · 08 Apr 2018

Kyle said:

Didn't Microsoft only offer free upgrades from Windows 7 Ultimate to Windows 10 Pro for a short period of time and then stopped it?

Not quite, what Microsoft did was announce that the offer had ended. Their FAQ now says...

The Windows 10 free upgrade through the Get Windows 10 (GWX) app ended on July 29, 2016.

https://support.microsoft.com/help/1...10-upgrade-faq
...the wording is peculiarly specific, referring just to the Get Windows 10 app.

What was found in practice was that if you upgrade a qualifying Windows 7 or 8 using the ISO or USB install media the activation servers would still give it a digital entitlement after that date. After an upgrade to get activation you could then do a clean install which would also activate. Starting with the Anniversary Update (the next version after your 14393) you could skip the upgrade and enter the key of your qualifying Win7/8 during a clean install to get a (now renamed) digital licence.

Whether this was deliberate or accidental on Microsoft's part is open to debate. Reports as recently as last month show that an upgrade still gets a digital licence. I suspect they quietly left the door open to get as many as possible to migrate to Windows 10.

AddRAM · 08 Apr 2018

Ugh !!!

Now the link doesn`t say download the Fall Creators Update anymore, but yet it doesn`t say download the Spring Creators Update either.

Eye Yi Yi, what is going on with MS

Access Denied · 08 Apr 2018

AddRAM said:

Ugh !!!

Now the link doesn`t say download the Fall Creators Update anymore, but yet it doesn`t say download the Spring Creators Update either.

Eye Yi YI, what is going on with MS

Actually that is a good thing. They must be going to release the SCU on the 10th. I for one would be mad as hell if I didn't know of the timing and release dates of these.... having downloaded and installed clean the FCU just <48 hours from the drop of the SCU.

AddRAM · 08 Apr 2018

Ya, I upgrade using the Iso file method, and I always wait at least 4 to 6 months.

I`m sure it`ll have the proper description soon.

jimbo45 · 09 Apr 2018

Hi there

I agree with you about W10 looking too "appy" but you can delete most of (if not all) of the tiles. I also don't like the way a lot of modern programs are being designed with a "one type fits all" interface - I still like having menus etc especially when you are using large screens as monitors.

Why should a program look like it's being run from a 6 cm smart phone screen !!

Other than that W10 installs easily, seems to run most hardware decently and networking eventually can be made to work properly on the latest upgrade (1803). The latest upgrade plus how to install it can be found elsewhere - this is the standard copy that will ship -- not the Insider preview version if you want to try it.

For Linux there are loads of "lite" distros - depends though what you want the system to do. I use mine for file serving including multi-media and for setting up some windows desktops via openvpn .

For servers I don't recommend Windows - particularly desktop versions as someone needs to be logged on to handle things like VM's -- also Windows desktop clients aren't very friendly to being run "headless" - but as a desktop OS - apart from the "appy" look it has improved considerably -- and makes W7 look old fashioned and quite laggy by comparison.

Windows servers (unless you are using an evaluation / trial copy) are so pricey that unless you are a lottery winner forget them for home use !! Linux servers / distros are all FREE although support you'll have to manage yourself with help from Google and various 'nix Forums.

Cheers
jimbo

IJazzI · 09 Apr 2018

I've been using Windows 7 keys for ages to activate Windows 10 during install, (as you're probably aware it selects the version depending on the key you've used). Windows 8 keys are pulled automatically from the BIOS on OEM machines and again it activates with no issue.

I did notice though that if you install 10 first and enter the key for W7 after it usually won't activate..

hennmann · 09 Apr 2018

Like I mentioned earlier my Acer I did an upgrade a bit over two weeks ago and the upgrade worked using my 7Starter keys and was upgraded to Home and I'm not talking out of my @$$. I didn't like how much slower it was when it was appified so I ripped it out by the roots and reinstalled Win7 Starter and spent every bit of 3 days with the perpetual update. Now I have Win10 Pro on a partition BECAUSE Microshaft was advertising Win10S a supposed stripped down version (or does the S mean sloth?) so having an ISO consisting of 32/64 bit Home,Pro,education, etc. with the purchased Keys I reinstalled Pro because the stipulation was you had to have Pro or Education to downgrade?upgrade? so this is why I installed Pro sloth. As it turned out it went through the motions for this so called updowngrade and all it did after much time was update the Pro to a sweeter tasting lemon latest Pro. Off to NLite