Windows 10: Have the requirements changed for Windows 10 without warning?

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  1.    2 Weeks Ago #1

    Have the requirements changed for Windows 10 without warning?

    I had an issue recently when a piece of software ( a driver down-loader/updater...Driver Pack Solution) dropped Avast Anti virus on my Windows 10 system. I used Revo Uninstall to rid the system of the AV, and the left over items that could not be cleared required a restart. (This was after the advanced scan by Revo). Upon restart Windows 10 hung on the screen Please Wait with the spinning balls and refused , despite a heck of a lot of disk activity to load up and run with a desktop. So , thankfully I hadn't got rid of it, I decided to re-install my OEM Windows & ultimate and do an upgrade... Now the original Windows 10 was Home on a Digital licence right, and it was working perfectly with my Wireless Dongle to connect tom our Wireless router... Every time I try to upgrade or re-install Windows ten. The initial checks say everything is fine... Then at what should be initialisation of Windows 10 I get the error that my Wireless LAN does not meet Windows 10 requirements and it undoes the upgrade, and I have to cancel the damn thing twice to get out of it. What have Microsoft done now? Is this some ploy to get me to Buy a copy of Windows 10 or a licence? The system was working perfectly fine till that ruddy Avast screwed it up. And I never once got any indication while I was using it that there was anything wrong. 10 accepted all the components of my system. I even tried the Media Creation tool... No such luck there also. I need access to my X Box live account so I can get some stored data from a game I was playing on-line. I can't access that from Windows 7 as it is no longer supported. Anyone got any Ideas as to what the heck is going on? I am an IT Tech and its's even got me baffled. I even had issues when I used a conventional LAN network cable directly to the router. Windows 10 then insisted that the computer's NIC was not up to scratch... EXCUSE ME IT BLOODY WELL IS, and we have a very decent Broadband connection thank you. Trying to contact Microsoft just got me a message that Windows 7 support has ended??? What the? It's time that Microsoft started listening to its customers instead of its marketing wallahs, its design people and their INEFFECTUAL PARTIALLY ILLITERATE PROGRAMMERS. Can anyone help?
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  2.    2 Weeks Ago #2

    Have you tried using media creation tool create a DVD boot from that delete all partitions and do a clean install you don't need a serial number as its registered on ms servers install without wireless new wireless is so cheap get a new AC one
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 v1803 Build 17133.73 (Branch: RS4 Release)
       2 Weeks Ago #3

    It would help if you updated your full system specs in your user profile, so we know exactly what hardware you have.

    You might have a NIC that MS can't find a driver for. That is the hardware manufacturers fault, not MS. You can NOT use Windows 7 drivers for Windows 10. Some Windows 8.1 drivers might work on 10 but I highly recommend against this.
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  4.    2 Weeks Ago #4

    There is no need to reinstall the original OEM Windows, and upgrade all over again. You can do as Samuria advised and just do a clean install of the latest Windows 10 Build. Install the same Edition that you got via the upgrade and it will activate with the Digital License it already has stored on the activation server.
    One thing to keep in mind is, even though its still called "Windows 10", each new build is in effect a new OS. As Windows gets newer with each build, and your hardware gets older with time, stuff may stop working due to a lack of drivers for the newest build.
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  5.    2 Weeks Ago #5

    I tried that alphanumeric...No such luck same errors...Either WLAN usb dongle or Nic are not compatible with Windows 10. yet the initial tests that the the installer does said everything was fine, so where is it going wrong. I used media creation tool and that had the same result. the install gets all the way to the last initialisation and WHAM! the errors. I'm not the only person that is having this kind of issue. I am seriously now thinking of abandoning Windows and migrating to another OS. Microsoft's Support are NO help, they hear Windows 7 mentioned and you get "Windows 7 is no longer supported" and then on they don't seem to be interested. All because I removed an install that a Driver update tool installed of Avast free Anti Virus... My system was running perfect til then. After removal... 10 would hang during the boot and load on the Please Wait screen with the spinning balls. I left the machine like that all day and it never loaded the desktop. I wish I could repeat the message I sent Avast, but that would be heavily censored for public viewing. The Utility I used is Driverpack Solutions... And its always worked perfectly on all the machine builds I do to find and install the latest Motherboard drivers. It does have issues with some older MSI boards though, and that is partly down to the Sound Drivers that are now made by CMedia... Another company that has extremely poor customer support. I'll just have to stick with Windows & Ultimate till the matter is resolved, or move over to one of the better Linux builds.
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  6.    2 Weeks Ago #6

    slicendice said: View Post
    It would help if you updated your full system specs in your user profile, so we know exactly what hardware you have.

    You might have a NIC that MS can't find a driver for. That is the hardware manufacturers fault, not MS. You can NOT use Windows 7 drivers for Windows 10. Some Windows 8.1 drivers might work on 10 but I highly recommend against this.
    The Tower is a Hodge-podge of various bits that were lying around..So specs are a little bit of a Frankenstein's monster. However As I had an OEM install of Windows 7 Ultimate on the system originally and that was working fine, I've had to revert to that. ALL attempts to now re-upgrade to 10 result in the same errors mentioned or some other bizarre spurious error. I did the initial upgrade to Windows 10 a year after the first roll out and it worked fine, did so and no issues with the NIC, the WLAN or anything else (Including the weirs Sound card I had in originally, but have since changed to the Motherboard on board sound system that is much better. Then I used a Driver Updater that I use to find all the Motherboard drivers that are needed for my builds, Driverpack Solution, and for some reason it installed Avast Anti Virus. I was trying out a new graphics card with better multi display outputs. And couldn't find the right driver myself. Oh the software found it and a load of other MB drivers that were outdated. My problems started when I removed Avast. So , with the original 10 on the system, I tried to reboot... 10 hung during load at the Pleas wait screen with the spinning balls... I left it all day and it never got past that point. hence the attempt to reinstall, And my eventual resort to re-installing the OEM Windows 7 Ultimate and the subsequent issues . I can see me abandoning Windows for a BETTER OS.
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       2 Weeks Ago #7

    Have you tried installing 10 without the wireless dongle connected? You don't need network connectivity to do the install, just untick the 'check for updates' box.

    Often such driver errors that cause a failed install only affect the actual install of Windows. You may well be able to install the device after the install has completed successfully.
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    Windows 10 Pro x64 v1803 Build 17133.73 (Branch: RS4 Release)
       2 Weeks Ago #8

    @Lord zaeon

    In order for us to diagnose your hardware compatibility issues, we need your system specs.

    Here's what you could do:

    1. Download HWInfo Portable(direct link) (HWiNFO - Hardware Information, Analysis and Monitoring Tools)
    2. Extract the downloaded file
    3. Run the tool HWiNFO64.exe or if that did not work, then run HWiNFO32.exe
    4. Press Yes at the User Account Control prompt (if you get any)
    5. Click Run
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    8. Press "Save Report"-button
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    11. Now come back here and write a new comment
    12. Press the "Go Advanced"-button
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    16. Click the .log file that you created earlier and press "Open"-button
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    18. Now your report should be attached here
    19. Press "Submit Reply" as usual
    20. Now we can analyze your hardware (Don't worry, no personal info about you will be delivered to us)

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  •    2 Weeks Ago #9

    It is always a good idea to have your necessary drivers handy on a flash drive before doing any OS install, especially network drivers.

    Forget using third-party software. Know the hardware and get the drivers yourself, to be sure you have the right ones.

    As for a better OS, if you think there's something easier to use than Windows 10, be my guest to try it. If you are getting stuck on a driver issue now, wait until you give Linux a try. You'll come to appreciate how easy Windows 10 is to use.
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  •    2 Weeks Ago #10

    As an additional thought, it is possible the wireless LAN dongle isn't working because the Windows 10 install process isn't recognizing certain USB ports. Depending on your motherboard, some require a driver for additional USB ports that Windows 10 doesn't have built-in drivers for. It isn't scientific, but I've always found the ones below the RJ45 NIC port are usually the most likely to be detected.
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