Could you guys take a quick look at my photo of the drives in my Dell 8920 and explain this arrangement?
Can I clone my OS and then pull the power and little black plug wire off of what I 'think' is the currently installed SSD and use them for a 1TB replacement SSD? There is a 2 TB drive also here. Is that the small drive underneath what appears to me to be the SSD drive? If It is, it is much smaller than old hard drives I'm accustomed to seeing?
Well, I hope I've attached the photo properly. I'll post this and see if the attachment can be viewed.
What you appear to have there is a SSHD, regardless you can clone or Image and restore the image to your new SSD, Macrium Reflect free is a good program to use for this. Some SSD comes with software to do this. I prefer to do the Image and restore to new SSD with the old hard drive removed. The connect the old hard drive VIA USB and format it.
Computer Type: PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number: Asus Z97Pro OS: Win 10 pro Upgraded from 8.1 CPU: Core I7 4790K Motherboard: Asus Z97 Pro Memory: 16 GB DDR3-1600 / PC3-12800 DDR3 SDRAM UDIMM Graphics Card: EVGA e-GeForce GT 740 4 GB Sound Card: RealTec ALC1150 Monitor(s) Displays: Asus 23" Screen Resolution: 1080 Keyboard: Logitech Wireless Mouse: Logitech Wireless PSU: 650 Case: Coolmaster HAF Cooling: Prolimatech Megahalems 1 120CM Fan pulling Hard Drives: SSD 860 Samsung EVO SSD
2 WD Black 1 TB
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Back up is Paid Version Macrium Reflect Images and File and Folder backups.
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Computer Type: Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number: Dell Inspiron 7386 2-in-1 OS: Native 64 Windows 10 upgrded to Pro CPU: i7-8565U Motherboard: Dell Memory: 2x 8 GB Graphics Card: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 620 Sound Card: Realtek Audio Intel(R) Display Audio Monitor(s) Displays: 13.3 Screen Resolution: 1020 X 1080 Mouse: Logitec MX Anywhere 2 Hard Drives: SSD 0, OS Samsung 970 Evo 1 TB
SSD 1 BC501 NVMe SK Hynix 512GB Internet Speed: 200Mbs down 10 Mbs up Cable Spectrum Browser: New Edge Antivirus: Norton/Malwarebytes Other Info: Recently i have just given up on IE 11, Now my default Browser is New Edge, I still have IE11 as back up for any web sites that won't work on Edge
What I see with the Power plug (P5) and the SATA data cable to the left of the power plug is a hard drive. On many Dell's that have an SSD and hard drive, the SSD is an M.2 type. This would appear to be correct for yours, too. Here is the spec's from the Dell manual.
Computer Type: PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number: MSI Aegis OS: Win 11 CPU: i7 13700F Motherboard: MSI B660M-A Memory: 32GB Graphics Card: NVIDIA 3060 Sound Card: Realtek Monitor(s) Displays: 27" LG Screen Resolution: 1920X1080 Keyboard: MSI Mouse: MSI PSU: 650 Gold Plus Case: MSI Cooling: MSI Hard Drives: MSI 1Tb M.2 2280 NVMe for Win 11
2TB conventional drive for recording projects and backup Internet Speed: 400 Mb/sec downlink Browser: Edge , Firefox Antivirus: Windows Defender Other Info: Recording Studio using Cakewalk (Sonar) and Studio One 4.6Pro. MOTU Ultralite MK5 recording interface unit.
Computer Type: Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number: Dell Inspiron 15 5577 OS: Win 10 Home CPU: 7th gen i5 Motherboard: Dell Memory: 8 GB Graphics Card: NVIDIA Sound Card: Realtek Monitor(s) Displays: Dell Screen Resolution: 1920X1080 Keyboard: Dell Mouse: Logitech PSU: Dell Case: Dell Cooling: Dell Hard Drives: 250GB SSD Internet Speed: 100Mb/sec downlink Browser: Edge Antivirus: Windows Defender Other Info: Recording studio DAW PC. NVIDIA is disabled and Intel CPU Video used when using recording studio apps due to Latency dropouts.
Thank you so much for taking a look. So do I understand the primary SSD drive is actually installed on the MB? The ssd is abt 500 gb and the secondary is 2TB. I don't know anything about M.2 drives. Shoot, I wanted to clone the primary to a 1 TB SSD and disconnect the current primary. But I'm not knowledgeable enough to try my hand at anything other than a straightforward switch.
So if replacing the current primary drive with my 1TB Samsung Pro SSD isn't a good idea for me to attempt, could I replace the secondary 2TB drive with the Samsung 1TB SSD and direct all my programs to install there? Those two plugs I'm seeing could just be switched to the Samsung 1TB SSD drive? Are these M.2 SSD's as sturdy and long lasting as the 2.5 inch SSD's.
My sincere thanks to everyone for taking the time to share your knowledge with me.
Dell has been using M.2 SSD's for quite a while. I work the Dell forums (same user name) and don't recall seeing any issues with M.2 SSD's. I have a Dell Inspiron 15 laptop that has an M.2 SSD and a 7th gen i5 CPU. It boots and loads programs as fast as my desktop that is an i7 6700K with a Samsung EVO 850 SSD.
The M.2 SSD is a plug in card and the connector is on the motherboard. I would leave the OS on the M.2 SSD. I would not use the SSD in place of the hard drive. SSD's (M.2 and conventional SSD's) life span is affected by how much access/writing is done. But if you want to use (apparently you have it) depending on the actual mechanical mounting for the hard drive space you may have to get an SSD "carrier". Some mountings have provisions for the screw holes to hold an SSD and some do not. I don't know what is in your PC, you will have to check. If there are no mounting holes for the SSD you will have to buy an adapter/carrier that will hold the SSD and mount in the hard drive slot.
Computer Type: PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number: MSI Aegis OS: Win 11 CPU: i7 13700F Motherboard: MSI B660M-A Memory: 32GB Graphics Card: NVIDIA 3060 Sound Card: Realtek Monitor(s) Displays: 27" LG Screen Resolution: 1920X1080 Keyboard: MSI Mouse: MSI PSU: 650 Gold Plus Case: MSI Cooling: MSI Hard Drives: MSI 1Tb M.2 2280 NVMe for Win 11
2TB conventional drive for recording projects and backup Internet Speed: 400 Mb/sec downlink Browser: Edge , Firefox Antivirus: Windows Defender Other Info: Recording Studio using Cakewalk (Sonar) and Studio One 4.6Pro. MOTU Ultralite MK5 recording interface unit.
Computer Type: Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number: Dell Inspiron 15 5577 OS: Win 10 Home CPU: 7th gen i5 Motherboard: Dell Memory: 8 GB Graphics Card: NVIDIA Sound Card: Realtek Monitor(s) Displays: Dell Screen Resolution: 1920X1080 Keyboard: Dell Mouse: Logitech PSU: Dell Case: Dell Cooling: Dell Hard Drives: 250GB SSD Internet Speed: 100Mb/sec downlink Browser: Edge Antivirus: Windows Defender Other Info: Recording studio DAW PC. NVIDIA is disabled and Intel CPU Video used when using recording studio apps due to Latency dropouts.
Computer Type: PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number: MSI Aegis OS: Win 11 CPU: i7 13700F Motherboard: MSI B660M-A Memory: 32GB Graphics Card: NVIDIA 3060 Sound Card: Realtek Monitor(s) Displays: 27" LG Screen Resolution: 1920X1080 Keyboard: MSI Mouse: MSI PSU: 650 Gold Plus Case: MSI Cooling: MSI Hard Drives: MSI 1Tb M.2 2280 NVMe for Win 11
2TB conventional drive for recording projects and backup Internet Speed: 400 Mb/sec downlink Browser: Edge , Firefox Antivirus: Windows Defender Other Info: Recording Studio using Cakewalk (Sonar) and Studio One 4.6Pro. MOTU Ultralite MK5 recording interface unit.
Computer Type: Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number: Dell Inspiron 15 5577 OS: Win 10 Home CPU: 7th gen i5 Motherboard: Dell Memory: 8 GB Graphics Card: NVIDIA Sound Card: Realtek Monitor(s) Displays: Dell Screen Resolution: 1920X1080 Keyboard: Dell Mouse: Logitech PSU: Dell Case: Dell Cooling: Dell Hard Drives: 250GB SSD Internet Speed: 100Mb/sec downlink Browser: Edge Antivirus: Windows Defender Other Info: Recording studio DAW PC. NVIDIA is disabled and Intel CPU Video used when using recording studio apps due to Latency dropouts.
I would pull the 2TB hard drive and install the 1TB SSD, hard drives just create heat, and if the 1TB ssd is all you need then do it. You actually don't have to remove it if you have room for the ssd. Just unplug it and use the 2 plugs to hook up the ssd.
And I would not install your programs on the 1TB ssd, keep all your programs on the OS drive if possible. That way you can create proper disk images.
Post a shot of Disk Management so we can see the size of the M.2
And do you actually have 64GB of memory in that PC ? Is that correct ?
I would pull the 2TB hard drive and install the 1TB SSD, hard drives just create heat, and if the 1TB ssd is all you need then do it. You actually don't have to remove it if you have room for the ssd. Just unplug it and use the 2 plugs to hook up the ssd.
And I would not install your programs on the 1TB ssd, keep all your programs on the OS drive if possible. That way you can create proper disk images.
Post a shot of Disk Management so we can see the size of the M.2
And do you actually have 64GB of memory in that PC ? Is that correct ?
Thank you for taking time to advise. Yes, it reports there is 64GB of RAM: 4 DUAL IN-LINE MEMORY MODULE, 16GB, 2400, 2RX8, 8G, DDR4. It just happened to be in the computer I bought. I don't need that much RAM and wouldn't have purchased this particular unit had I known about the m.2 SSD that resides on the MB. My mistake for not understanding what I was buying. The m.2 is a 256GB drive. I initially believed it to be abt 500GB, so you can see I really didn't know what the heck I was buying. I saw it had an SSD and thought, well, I can just clone or image this smaller drive and replace it. Later I learn it isn't a 2.5 SSD but a m.2 SSD located on the MB. There is only about 155 Gigs of space remaining on this OS drive. That isn't much room when you start installing programs. And I'd imagine Windows needs breathing space to work. I don't know if that breathing space has already been allocated and aside in the drive configuration. Everything has just gotten more technical and I haven't kept up.
This whole thing began because I was having a problem with my old box. I became apprehensive, fearing it would die before I could get something here and get everything transferred and set up. So I quickly bought this unit. It was a dent and scratch and the cheapest of 3 with Windows 10 Pro that Dell had on their outlet site when I went looking. Probably configured for someone doing a lot of statistical work. I've since done some reading and if I'm understanding correctly, I can purchase a larger m.2 ssd to replace the smaller one if the MB will accept a larger m.2 drive. I don't think I'd attempt to switch it out but surely a computer shop could do it. I've changed out most things in a box but fiddling with the MB makes me a bit nervous. If I keep this box, I will eventually replace the mechanical drive with my 850 Samsung Pro SSD. Switching things around will void the existing warranty on this new box, so that is another consideration.
I will admit I dislike everything about moving to this new OS and computer. But the old one is dying so I have to do something or quit.
I think it will cost me about $300 to return this box to Dell and get something else. I'm weighing my options and hoping my old box doesn't quit on me before I get settled into a new computer.
My thanks again for taking time to comment and help. I would really be up a creek without a paddle without the help and advice I receive here.
There`s nothing wrong with an M.2 and a 256GB is a great size, you should have no problem having windows and all your programs on that with 200GB to spare.
In my opinion, 155GB is a ton of space, my OS drives have never gone over 50GB of used space.
If you approach 100GB of used space, then you are doing something wrong, all your data should be stored on the 1TB ssd, but not the programs.
There are 3 things you can do to reduce the amount of space used on the M.2
1) Get rid of the page file, with 64GB of memory you DO NOT need one. Or you can lower it to 1GB, depending on what size it is now.
2) Turn off Hibernation, if you don't use it you don't need it, sleep is just as good, in my opinion.
3) Turn off system Restore, or just decrease the amount you use.
If you create a disk image and update it every week or 2, you do not need to use System Restore at all, but I would leave it on and manually create your own Restore Points.
Any questions just ask :)
And Always, Always create a Disk image when you're done and happy with Windows, so you never have to reinstall it again :) That is the best piece of advice anyone could ever give you.
I think it will cost me about $300 to return this box to Dell and get something else. I'm weighing my options and hoping my old box doesn't quit on me before I get settled into a new computer.
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I'm surprised to see such unhappiness with what appears to be a pretty good piece of hardware.
256 GB is a pretty good size for the SSD to run the OS and applications. 155 GB free is plenty.
An m.2 SSD isn't harder to deal with than a RAM stick. There's a small screw involved, but otherwise the m.2 device may be easier to seat than a DDR3 or DDR4 stick. If you insisted on cloning it to a larger SSD, the main logistical issue is that there is only one m.2 slot on the board. (There are actually 2, but I'm not sure that the second is compatible with an SSD.) There are inexpensive (<$20 US) adapters that would allow you to connect a second m.2 drive to allow direct cloning to it. The main issue with that would be choosing one compatible with the new SSD type, PCI-E or SATA. (PCI-E is recommended for performance.)
I'm not sure why the other posters haven't referred you directly to the service manual. http://topics-cdn.dell.com/pdf/xps-8...nual_en-us.pdf It's written in readable English. It goes into detail about the hard drives and the m.2 device.
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