1709 Fails to install and how to remove multiple recovery partitions? Solved

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  1.    14 Jan 2018 #31

    Sorry for being late in posting the solution...

    I finally got Windows 1709 installed.

    To shortly bring into memory:
    - in my case the existing Windows was installed on DISK 1
    - upgrading to 1709 was not possible
    - I wrongly assumed that it did not matter on which disk Windows is being installed
    so each install failed as apparently Windows 'demands' being installed on DISK 0

    I went on as follows:

    1) In BIOS I disabled the SATA port of DISK 1
    2) Reboot
    3) Diskmgmt showed that DISK 1 (SSD with Windows) became DISK 0
    4) Boot from USB (created by Media Creation Tool)
    5) Then selected "Repair your computer" (do not select 'Install now')
    6) Click "Troubleshoot"
    7) Click "Command Prompt"
    8) Then execute the DISKPART instructions found on "UEFI/GPT-based hard drive partitions" https://goo.gl/45hy6D
    (see at the bottom)

    list disk
    rem make sure to select the correct disk number, in most cases for Windows disk 0
    select disk 0
    cleanconvert gpt
    create partition efi size=100
    format quick fs=fat32 label="System"
    assign letter="S"
    create partition msr size=16
    create partition primary
    shrink minimum=500
    format quick fs=ntfs label="Windows"
    assign letter="W"
    create partition primary
    format quick fs=ntfs label="Recovery tools"
    assign letter="R"
    set id="de94bba4-06d1-4d40-a16a-bfd50179d6ac"
    gpt attributes=0x8000000000000001

    9) Reboot and launch setup from USB
    10) Select "Install now" this time and select the proper partition (named "Windows")

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    Note that after Windows install and after re-enabling SATA-port of DISK 1 (in BIOS),
    the Windows HDD changes back from DISK 0 to DISK 1 again.

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    Last edited by tfwul; 15 Jan 2018 at 04:49.
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  2.    14 Jan 2018 #32

    Well done- Interesting... and relevant in a way to me- basically similar hardware (SSD + SSHD) and my SSD is Disk 1.

    However, I CAN upgrade successfully (1607 -> 1703, 1703-> 1709) BUT since 1703 I have a problem with my Recovery partition- a straight upgrade leaves it impossible to use advanced recovery options.

    My suspicion as per my earlier post about a change in MS's disk numbering schema is that's the impact of that.

    So if I were to follow similar steps I could possibly resolve that.
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  3.    15 Jan 2018 #33

    Also note that IF(!) DISK 1 remained in place, and even after all the DISKPART stuff above, a clean Windows install was nót successful...
    Always ending up with the same BSOD and Windows setup error 0x1900101 - 0x30017
    "The installation failed in the FIRST_BOOT phase with an error during BOOT operation"
    At least, not with me.

    That said, in this scenario, one has to be a real 'expert' to install Windows ...:)
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  4. Layback Bear's Avatar
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    Windows 7/64 Professional
       15 Jan 2018 #34

    I always keep Windows on Disk "0" partition "C"; I don't know why one wouldn't.
    If Windows is on Disk "0" partition "C" and all other drives are unhooked, I don't believe their will be a problem except for the time it takes to download and install a Upgrade.

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  5.    15 Jan 2018 #35

    I clean installed Win 10 on this laptop (SSD + HDD) as 1511. When I got to 1703 I found a problem, and realised then my SSD was Disk 1 as seen by Disk Management. No choice, no control.

    The disk numbers are seen differently too in installing Windows by builds 1607 and 1703. (When choosing partitions to delete).

    But MS changed their numbering scheme internally from 1-9 to 0-9 (an MS tech guy told me) with 1703. Can't say I fully understand it, but that's when I noticed the difference.
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  6. Layback Bear's Avatar
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       15 Jan 2018 #36

    Thanks for the info dalchina.

    I have never had a laptop, sorry for not understanding. Now I do.

    What does Disk Management show now?

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  7.    15 Jan 2018 #37

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    -from 1703 I've had to clean install 1607, then copy C: from my CU or FCU over the newly created C: then let automated repair run - and this time I had to run reagentc /disable & /enable to have recovery options fully available. Weird.

    I just wonder how long I'll get away with it. There's a long thread about this when we tried to sort this out before I discovered the disk number difference when clean installing, quite by chance. Maybe it would help if I were to disconnect my data disk, however there are a couple of things that make that not so straightforward.
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  8.    15 Jan 2018 #38

    I had my pc built, based on the components I had chosen. I asked the shop to keep 1 SATA cable loose so I could connect a new, spare 2TB HDD. That HDD was connected to SATA port 8, but in Windows it became DISK 1, whereas in fact SATA port 1 was/is the SSD.
    So, SATA port 8, instead of becoming DISK 8 or whatever. overruled DISK 0, placing itself on top of the list..
    Bottomline I think Microsoft should sort this out, i.e. allow install on a different disk#
    Probably there are many more people with Windows on DISK 1 and potentially they will head for issues when re-installing Windows.
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  9. Layback Bear's Avatar
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    Windows 7/64 Professional
       16 Jan 2018 #39

    @ dalchina.

    Can the unallocate on Disk "0" be deleted? What is on it?

    Maybe Mini Tool would be helpful.

    From my computer.

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  10.    16 Jan 2018 #40

    That's part of the basic disk structure. It's not a partition I've created.
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