Windows 10: Infuriating double bind when trying to install latest Win 10 update

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  1.    22 Dec 2017 #1

    Infuriating double bind when trying to install latest Win 10 update


    Every time I try to install the latest update to Windows 10 using the on-line method, I get an error message that tells me to turn off my antivirus program. Installing Windows 10 this way takes up to an hour. So I'm supposed to leave my computer unprotected for an hour, when according to what I've read, the average time for an unprotected PC to become infected with a virus or malware when it's online is 12 minutes? But when I try to install the update using the full-size standalone installer, I get a message that "this update is not applicable to your computer," and after spending half an hour trying to figure out which update is applicable to my computer, I gave up. Does anyone have any advice for getting around this dilemma?
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  2. AndreTen's Avatar
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    Windows 10 (Pro and Insider Pro)
       22 Dec 2017 #2

    Where do you install this update from? And which antivirus do you use?

    You can use ISO directly from Microsoft and update to 1709 version. Any later versions are not that big and the best is to update via Windows update.

    tutorials download-windows-10-iso-file
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  3. Posts : 20,794
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       23 Dec 2017 #3

    If you ever need to turn off a non-Microsoft AV product you can turn on Windows defender.
    Many of us have been using Windows defender for years without malware problems.

    Which AV products/firewall products do you have installed that is always on?
    Which AV products do you have installed that are manual?
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  4.    23 Dec 2017 #4

    That's "if" your browsing other sires etc, while doing the update. If all your connected to in Windows update, there isn't too much to worry about, IMHO.
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  5.    24 Dec 2017 #5

    Once update takes over, there's nothing to protect from, system files are locked and nothing but update process can do anything to them. During larger updates it's not even advisable to do anything else.
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  6.    24 Dec 2017 #6

    mafinokc said: View Post
    So I'm supposed to leave my computer unprotected for an hour, when according to what I've read, the average time for an unprotected PC to become infected with a virus or malware when it's online is 12 minutes? Does anyone have any advice for getting around this dilemma?
    Don't believe everything you read on the internet. I've got 10 computers on my home network that have been running with nothing but Windows defender now since the days when Windows 10 was ONLY in the beta "insider" stage. No virus or malware infections here.

    The NAT firewall in any decent router will provide excellent protections against infections that are pushed to computers. Common sense browsing and email habits will provide the best protection against infections that the user invites in.
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  7.    26 Dec 2017 #7

    • I am using IObit Advanced System Care Pro Ultimate and IObit Malware Fighter Pro. I use IMF because my impression is that there is a small but detectable improvement in speed compared to Windows Defender and IMF also seems a little less temperamental. We use a recently purchased Netgear cable modem and a new TP-Link router which is essentially the previous Archer 2000 series.
    • Concerning updating Windows: I have tried using the online update tool. I have tried using a bootable thumb drive with the ISO. I have tried using a bootable DVD with the ISO. I have tried installing the ISO while connected to the Internet and while disconnected from the Internet. I have tried it with security software on and with all security software turned off. No matter what variation or permutation of installation method and computer settings I try, something always goes wrong. In my opinion Microsoft has not done a good job of changing from their old update methods to this Linux-like method they use now. I converted one of our old PCs to Linux Mint MATE and just updated from 18.1 to 18.3 and as always, the OS update completed with no hitches whatsoever.
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  8. Posts : 20,794
    windows 10 professional version 1607 build 14393.969 64 bit
       26 Dec 2017 #8

    Please update the system specs in the "My Computer" section:

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    Include PSU. cooler, case, peripherals and anything attached to the computer by wired or wireless (mouse, keyboard, headset, printer, xbox, etc.)

    Which antivirus products are installed on the computer that are:
    a) always on
    b) manual

    The "My Computer" section indicates that the computer has Windows 8.1
    Have you placed a thread on our sister website Eight Forums?
    Windows 8 Forums
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  9. Layback Bear's Avatar
    Posts : 994
    Windows 7/64 Professional
       26 Dec 2017 #9

    Using these programs has killed many of computers.

    From post # 7

    [QUOTE
    I am using IObit Advanced System Care Pro Ultimate and IObit Malware Fighter Pro][/QUOTE]



    Jack
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  10.    28 Dec 2017 #10

    Layback Bear said: View Post
    Using these programs has killed many of computers.

    From post # 7

    I am using IObit Advanced System Care Pro Ultimate and IObit Malware Fighter Pro]


    Jack
    Absolutely 100% agree!
    Last edited by NavyLCDR; 29 Dec 2017 at 00:13.
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