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  1. Joined : Nov 2013
    Toronto
    Posts : 4,288
    Win 10 Pro x64
       11 Jul 2015 #11

    Cliff S said: View Post
    To upgrade from 7 to 10 he needs to use windows update the first time, and windows update has been updated itself many times since the last Win7 ISO with sp1 came out. He may not need GWX, but it must be fully updated to be able to upgrade(that's why even using setup.exe it looks for updates first.

    My Win 7 image/installation is from 2011, I heave re-image in between but not reinstalled, and it runs just fine. No BSODs since 20112 when I was testing different All-In-One optimizers(just testing really), but the install is from 2011 and after multiple Win10 upgrade testing it work well every time(after turning RAPID MODE off).
    Well, I will never find out the real answer. I am not giving up my 7.. haha..
    But personally, doing the updates is not a big deal if that is the only thing there is to do. Some of us here has to painfully go through 12 or more hours of upgrade process just to switch between insider builds. Why not for the real thing?
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  2. Joined : Feb 2015
    Bamberg Germany
    Posts : 12,931
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 14393 Multiprocessor Free
       11 Jul 2015 #12

    badrobot said: View Post
    Well, I will never find out the real answer. I am not giving up my 7.. haha..
    But personally, doing the updates is not a big deal if that is the only thing there is to do.
    This is very true, unless like me on a metered connection with pre-paid mobile broadband. Not like Windows 8.1 where you have to stop downloading install what you have and start downloading again(another reason I'm so big on using system images).
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  3. Joined : Nov 2013
    Toronto
    Posts : 4,288
    Win 10 Pro x64
       11 Jul 2015 #13

    Cliff S said: View Post
    like me on a metered connection with pre-paid mobile broadband.
    Oh yeah, that really hurts. You don't have any other internet connection option?
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  4. Joined : Feb 2015
    Bamberg Germany
    Posts : 12,931
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 14393 Multiprocessor Free
       11 Jul 2015 #14

    badrobot said: View Post
    Oh yeah, that really hurts. You don't have any other internet connection option?
    I finally found an ISP I want(that doesn't have any opt out crap added), I got my confirmation now I have to wait until my telephone connection from Telekom is transferred to the ISP and I'll have fiber optic.. The ISP is our city utility (water electricity etc..) An I got a great deal, the Fritz1Box 7490 for a one time payment of 49 euros.


    Telefon & Internet 25/5

    Telefon & Internet 25/5

    Grundpreis mtl. (1.-6. Monat) Energiekunden der STWB
    19,90 €
    anschließend
    26,90 €



    • Max. Download-Geschwindigkeit
      25 Mbit/s
    • Max. Upload-Geschwindigkeit
      5 Mbit/s
    • Internet- und Telefon-Flatrate (ins dt. Festnetz)
    • Fritz!Box 7360





    Telefon & Internet 50/10

    Telefon & Internet 50/10

    Grundpreis mtl. (1.-6. Monat) Energiekunden der STWB
    19,90 €
    anschließend
    32,90 €



    • Max. Download-Geschwindigkeit
      50 Mbit/s
    • Max. Upload-Geschwindigkeit
      10 Mbit/s
    • Internet- und Telefon-Flatrate (ins dt. Festnetz)
    • Fritz!Box 7360





    Telefon & Internet 100/25

    Telefon & Internet 100/25

    Grundpreis mtl. (1.-6. Monat)
    Energiekunden der STWB
    19,90 €
    anschließend
    39,90 €



    • Max. Download-Geschwindigkeit 100 Mbit/s
    • Max. Upload-Geschwindigkeit 25 Mbit/s
    • Internet- und Telefon-Flatrate (ins dt. Festnetz)
    • Fritz!Box 7360
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  5.    11 Jul 2015 #15

    I appreciate all the feedback - thanks.

    My objective is to do a clean OS install, and since I will be doing that I'd just as soon do it with Win10 even though I am perfectly happy with how Win7 works for me.

    My underlying issue is that my SSD boot drive is 128GB and it has all my software and my OS on it, but no user data at all. After many years (my OS was initially installed on a HDD) the drive is now about half full, and most of that is bloat located in the WINSXS and DriverStore directories, and of course the Registry. (I install and delete a lot of software.) I do not want to propagate any of that bloat onto my new drive, hence the desire to do a clean install from a Win10 ISO.

    From what I understand now the only way to get the WIn10 ISO is to upgrade my current Win7 drive to Win10 and then wait (how long???) for the Win10 ISO to become available. When it does I can use it to do a clean Win10 install on my new SSD.

    This seems like an unreasonable burden and must be the result of some short-sighted thinking at Microsoft, but oh well. What I will probably do is (1) make an image backup of my current SSD, (2) do the Win10 upgrade, (3) make an image backup of that, and (4) restore my Win7 backup. I'll just hold on to my new SSD until the ISO becomes available because I'd rather not mess with an upgraded system and deal with whatever glitches that presents.
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  6. Joined : Feb 2015
    Bamberg Germany
    Posts : 12,931
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 14393 Multiprocessor Free
       11 Jul 2015 #16

    bbinnard said: View Post
    I appreciate all the feedback - thanks.

    My objective is to do a clean OS install, and since I will be doing that I'd just as soon do it with Win10 even though I am perfectly happy with how Win7 works for me.

    My underlying issue is that my SSD boot drive is 128GB and it has all my software and my OS on it, but no user data at all. After many years (my OS was initially installed on a HDD) the drive is now about half full, and most of that is bloat located in the WINSXS and DriverStore directories, and of course the Registry. (I install and delete a lot of software.) I do not want to propagate any of that bloat onto my new drive, hence the desire to do a clean install from a Win10 ISO.

    From what I understand now the only way to get the WIn10 ISO is to upgrade my current Win7 drive to Win10 and then wait (how long???) for the Win10 ISO to become available. When it does I can use it to do a clean Win10 install on my new SSD.

    This seems like an unreasonable burden and must be the result of some short-sighted thinking at Microsoft, but oh well. What I will probably do is (1) make an image backup of my current SSD, (2) do the Win10 upgrade, (3) make an image backup of that, and (4) restore my Win7 backup. I'll just hold on to my new SSD until the ISO becomes available because I'd rather not mess with an upgraded system and deal with whatever glitches that presents.
    THAT sounds like a good plan. Just make sure and take the time to test and see if you can re-image. The only reason to reinstall win7 now would be if you are using MBR and want to switch to GPT partitioning for Win10(not necessary but some things like UEFI need it) you can always do that though when you clean install Win10.
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  7.    11 Jul 2015 #17

    Good point. I am currently using GPT/UEFI so that (thankfully) should not be an issue for me.
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