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  1. Joined : Dec 2013
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       10 Jun 2015 #11

    labeeman said: View Post
    Gabe Aul has said in a tweet that M$ will not ask for the W7 key. So why would a reinstall of the old OS be necessary?
    Yes, but that was in response to someone who had originally upgraded from Windows 7, and wondered if they would have to enter the Windows 7 key when they went to the RTM. It wasn't a blanket statement.
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  2. Joined : Dec 2013
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       10 Jun 2015 #12

    Anybody can upgrade to the RTM from the preview. The question is, if you did a clean install instead of upgrading from a qualifying OS, will you be activated and good to go? The way I read it is, if you upgraded from windows 7 or 8.1, that fact is stored in the TP and you'll be good to go. If you clean installed the TP, you may have to prove ownership of a qualifying OS. That's just my read, it's open to interpretation, so make up your own mind, or wait for Microsoft to actually spell it out in black and white.
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       10 Jun 2015 #13

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    Anybody can upgrade to the RTM from the preview. The question is, if you did a clean install instead of upgrading from a qualifying OS, will you be activated and good to go? The way I read it is, if you upgraded from windows 7 or 8.1, that fact is stored in the TP and you'll be good to go. If you clean installed the TP, you may have to prove ownership of a qualifying OS. That's just my read, it's open to interpretation, so make up your own mind, or wait for Microsoft to actually spell it out in black and white.
    Everyone may have a slightly different key-path. In my case, cause I have OEM 8.1 Pro, I think MS will use the UEFI stored key to verify, then issue a WIN 10 key of it's own. That's very similar, in fact the same, as when I got a machine 4 yrs ago with OEM WIN 7 Home Prem, Then did the "Anytime Upgrade" to WIN 7 Ultimate. The WIN 7 upgrade validated from OEM key and issued it's own for Ultimate. I had both keys stored on the box. No, UEFI, of course.
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       10 Jun 2015 #14

    f14tomcat said: View Post
    Everyone may have a slightly different key-path. In my case, cause I have OEM 8.1 Pro, I think MS will use the UEFI stored key to verify, then issue a WIN 10 key of it's own. That's very similar, in fact the same, as when I got a machine 4 yrs ago with OEM WIN 7 Home Prem, Then did the "Anytime Upgrade" to WIN 7 Ultimate. The WIN 7 upgrade validated from OEM key and issued it's own for Ultimate. I had both keys stored on the box. No, UEFI, of course.
    My laptop has a Windows 8.0 OEM key in the BIOS. I'm running 8.1 Pro though with Media Center though. That's three keys to pick from. If they use the 8.0 key I'll only get 10 Home. Use the 8.1 Pro key and I get 10 Pro. if I were to upgrade to the TP right now I would get the Pro version. What does a clean install get me? See where I'm going with this. It should be easy but it could be complicated.
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       10 Jun 2015 #15

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    My laptop has a Windows 8.0 OEM key in the BIOS. I'm running 8.1 Pro though with Media Center though. That's three keys to pick from. If they use the 8.0 key I'll only get 10 Home. Use the 8.1 Pro key and I get 10 Pro. if I were to upgrade to the TP right now I would get the Pro version. What does a clean install get me? See where I'm going with this. It should be easy but it could be complicated.
    Get an iPad...
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       10 Jun 2015 #16

    Seriously, though, it should work highest backward, LIFO, last key (highest) should be the "give up" key. Therefore, you get 10 Pro.
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       10 Jun 2015 #17

    f14tomcat said: View Post
    Get an iPad...
    Both of my laptops have OEM 8.0 keys and both are running 8.1 Pro via my TechNet keys. Logic would say that Microsoft should use the 8.1 Pro keys and give me 10 Pro. We'll just have to wait and see though.
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       10 Jun 2015 #18

    f14tomcat said: View Post
    Seriously, though, it should work highest backward, LIFO, last key (highest) should be the "give up" key. Therefore, you get 10 Pro.
    Yes I agree. My point was, if you clean install, is it Home or Pro, and what version do you get when you upgrade to the RTM? If it installs Home, and you may miss out on a chance to get the pro version. It's only just recently that I noticed it saying 10 Home or 10 Pro. The early builds just said Windows 10.
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       10 Jun 2015 #19

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    Yes I agree. My point was, if you clean install, is it Home or Pro, and what version do you get when you upgrade to the RTM? If it installs Home, and you may miss out on a chance to get the pro version. It's only just recently that I noticed it saying 10 Home or 10 Pro. The early builds just said Windows 10.
    Do you know for certain which one is flashed in your BIOS? Either lappy? When I use Produkey (Nirsoft) it says "BIOS"....
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       10 Jun 2015 #20

    f14tomcat said: View Post
    Do you know for certain which one is flashed in your BIOS? Either lappy? When I use Produkey (Nirsoft) it says "BIOS"....
    I use showkey, https://www.tenforums.com/software-ap...7-showkey.html it lists the BIOS key, original key, and installed key. For my laptop those would be the 8.0 OEM key, the 8.1 Pro key and the Media Center key.

    EDIT: Both laptops came with 8.0 Core. One of the first things I did after becoming an MVP was use add features to upgrade to Pro. Then when the free Media center offer was out there I got keys for that and used add features again. Those media center keys also work in 8.1.
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