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  1. Joined : Feb 2016
    Letchworth, UK
    Posts : 44
    Windows 10 Pro x64 and Ubuntu 16.04 x64
       21 Oct 2016 #1

    How to easily make an installation USB stick from an ISO


    So you want to reinstall Windows 10, or maybe dual-boot with Linux? Then (especially with Linux) you are like "How to I make the ISO installable from?" Then you've come to the right place. Use this software called Rufus (rufus.akeo.ie). Its really fast and can use about any ISO you have!
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  2. Joined : Jul 2015
    Posts : 6,428
    Windows 10 Pro
       21 Oct 2016 #2

    Rufus has caused a lot of issues for people who haven't picked the correct settings. I personally avoid it because there are much more reliable methods to create a bootable USB flash drive that is bootable in both UEFI and legacy BIOS computers.

    Create a Bootable USB Flash Drive

    To make the USB universally bootable between UEFI and legacy BIOS, use FAT32 file system at step 9:
    9. To format the partition, type format fs=FAT32 quick, and then click ENTER.

    For step 12, mount your ISO file and copy all the files and folders from the mounted ISO file to the USB flash drive and you're done. If you are Windows, you need a mounting program like WinISO:
    How do I mount iso image file in Windows 7?

    Windows 8 and Windows 10 mount ISO files natively, just right click ISO file and select Mount.

    The only downside to formatting the USB flash drive as FAT32 instead of NTFS is the file size limit.
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  3. Joined : Feb 2016
    Letchworth, UK
    Posts : 44
    Windows 10 Pro x64 and Ubuntu 16.04 x64
       22 Oct 2016 #3

    NavyLCDR said: View Post
    Rufus has caused a lot of issues for people who haven't picked the correct settings. I personally avoid it because there are much more reliable methods to create a bootable USB flash drive that is bootable in both UEFI and legacy BIOS computers.

    Create a Bootable USB Flash Drive

    To make the USB universally bootable between UEFI and legacy BIOS, use FAT32 file system at step 9:
    9. To format the partition, type format fs=FAT32 quick, and then click ENTER.

    For step 12, mount your ISO file and copy all the files and folders from the mounted ISO file to the USB flash drive and you're done. If you are Windows, you need a mounting program like WinISO:
    How do I mount iso image file in Windows 7?

    Windows 8 and Windows 10 mount ISO files natively, just right click ISO file and select Mount.

    The only downside to formatting the USB flash drive as FAT32 instead of NTFS is the file size limit.
    I guess that is true, but providing you have a UEFI BIOS, Rufus is great. It has always worked for me though, and ive used it on computers ranging from laptops from 2001 (With Legacy BIOS) to brand new Gaming PCs (UEFI BIOS). But your results may vary.
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  4. Joined : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 7,976
    Windows 10 IoT
       24 Oct 2016 #4

    NavyLCDR said: View Post
    Rufus has caused a lot of issues for people who haven't picked the correct settings. I personally avoid it because there are much more reliable methods to create a bootable USB flash drive that is bootable in both UEFI and legacy BIOS computers.

    Create a Bootable USB Flash Drive

    To make the USB universally bootable between UEFI and legacy BIOS, use FAT32 file system at step 9:
    9. To format the partition, type format fs=FAT32 quick, and then click ENTER.

    For step 12, mount your ISO file and copy all the files and folders from the mounted ISO file to the USB flash drive and you're done. If you are Windows, you need a mounting program like WinISO:
    How do I mount iso image file in Windows 7?

    Windows 8 and Windows 10 mount ISO files natively, just right click ISO file and select Mount.

    The only downside to formatting the USB flash drive as FAT32 instead of NTFS is the file size limit.
    I prefer to use diskpart over Rufus. My (fat 32) install thumb drives work with both UEFI and legacy BIOS.
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  5. Joined : Dec 2015
    Posts : 2,287
    Windows10
       24 Oct 2016 #5

    NavyLCDR said: View Post
    Rufus has caused a lot of issues for people who haven't picked the correct settings. I personally avoid it because there are much more reliable methods to create a bootable USB flash drive that is bootable in both UEFI and legacy BIOS computers.

    Create a Bootable USB Flash Drive

    To make the USB universally bootable between UEFI and legacy BIOS, use FAT32 file system at step 9:
    9. To format the partition, type format fs=FAT32 quick, and then click ENTER.

    For step 12, mount your ISO file and copy all the files and folders from the mounted ISO file to the USB flash drive and you're done. If you are Windows, you need a mounting program like WinISO:
    How do I mount iso image file in Windows 7?

    Windows 8 and Windows 10 mount ISO files natively, just right click ISO file and select Mount.

    The only downside to formatting the USB flash drive as FAT32 instead of NTFS is the file size limit.
    A few days ago on another forum, a guy from a media company claiming to be experts in pc's posted a video showing how to create a bootable usb drive using diskpart and told everyone to use commands like active (not used for uefi of course), and insisted you should use ntfs.

    I told him you have to use fat32 for a uefi pc, and he replied NTFS was better due to file size limit! So much for experts eh - LOL!
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  6. Joined : Aug 2014
    Forever West
    Posts : 2,338
    Win10 Home and Pro, Win7 Home, Linux Mint
       24 Oct 2016 #6

    I told him you have to use fat32 for a uefi pc, and he replied NTFS was better due to file size limit! So much for experts eh - LOL!
    He's partially right, NTFS formatting is required when a file reaches 4GB, or as some say, 4GB plus 1Byte. FAT32 formatting has a few limitations and some are also based on the Operating System. When it comes to booting NTFS usually isn't the proper choice, but it may depend a lot on what the BIOS allows.
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  7. Joined : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 7,976
    Windows 10 IoT
       25 Oct 2016 #7

    cereberus said: View Post
    A few days ago on another forum, a guy from a media company claiming to be experts in pc's posted a video showing how to create a bootable usb drive using diskpart and told everyone to use commands like active (not used for uefi of course), and insisted you should use ntfs.

    I told him you have to use fat32 for a uefi pc, and he replied NTFS was better due to file size limit! So much for experts eh - LOL!
    I can install in UEFI mode with an NTFS formatted thumb drive on my ASUS laptop. Won't work on my wife's Acer though. Both are UEFI. I think the safe bet for most people is to use Fat 32 for their install media. I don't put anything else on that thumb drive. I use 8 gig thumb drives for install drives.
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  8. Joined : Dec 2015
    Posts : 2,287
    Windows10
       25 Oct 2016 #8

    Berton said: View Post
    He's partially right, NTFS formatting is required when a file reaches 4GB, or as some say, 4GB plus 1Byte. FAT32 formatting has a few limitations and some are also based on the Operating System. When it comes to booting NTFS usually isn't the proper choice, but it may depend a lot on what the BIOS allows.
    Ok I see that in order to boot from ntfs in uefi, the bios has to have ntfs boot modules built in.

    This is not a common feature. The uefi standard is for fat32 and gives greatest compatibility. My original point still basically stands as that advice was being given that would fail on most (not all though as I thought) devices.
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  9. Joined : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
    Posts : 7,976
    Windows 10 IoT
       25 Oct 2016 #9

    cereberus said: View Post
    Ok I see that in order to boot from ntfs in uefi, the bios has to have ntfs boot modules built in.

    This is not a common feature. The uefi standard is for fat32 and gives greatest compatibility. My original point still basically stands as that advice was being given that would fail on most (not all though as I thought) devices.
    Using NTFS would likely fail for most people trying to do a UEFI install. Or they end up with a legacy install instead. Some would then wonder why, and some wouldn't even notice, lol.
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  10. Joined : Oct 2014
    New Jersey
    Posts : 624
    Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
       26 Oct 2016 #10

    Diskpart is dangerous in the hands of a novice and should not be used to setup a drive, much simpler to create and use a PW Boot CD or let the installer do its thing.

    I prefer a MBR drive, nice and clean I had it installed EFI on a GPT, looked silly
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