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  1. Joined : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    Windows 10 IoT
       05 Jun 2015 #11

    Arc said: View Post
    I have performed Clean reinstalls of 10 only.

    So what should be my way to get the RTM?
    My advice is to just wait for more info. You may be able to just upgrade via Windows update just like you upgrade to a new build now.
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  2. Joined : Oct 2013
    Tropic of Cancer
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    Microsoft Windows 10 Home
       05 Jun 2015 #12

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    My advice is to just wait for more info.
    Thanks for the good advice. There is a long time to go, and we definitely will get all the necessary information in detail at the right time.
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  3. Joined : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    Windows 10 IoT
       05 Jun 2015 #13

    At this point there is so much speculation and rumors on the go that I'm having a really hard time keeping track of what's real and what's fiction.
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  4. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
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    Windows 10 Pro x64
       05 Jun 2015 #14

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    At this point there is so much speculation and rumors on the go that I'm having a really hard time keeping track of what's real and what's fiction.
    Try filling a coin.. that might help.
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  5. Joined : Oct 2013
    Tropic of Cancer
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    Microsoft Windows 10 Home
       05 Jun 2015 #15

    Almost same here.

    I am curious about one thing mainly, what will happen to a retail license. Will it become a per device license or will it keep the transferability.
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  6. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
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    Windows 10 Pro x64
       05 Jun 2015 #16

    Arc said: View Post
    Almost same here.

    I am curious about one thing mainly, what will happen to a retail license. Will it become a per device license or will it keep the transferability.
    I suspect it will remain transferable. .. The upgrade may not be but you get a separate license then you should be able to transfer that from one PC to another one.
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  7. Joined : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
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    Triple Boot 10 Pro & 10 Insider Pro & 8.1 Pro
       05 Jun 2015 #17

    alphanumeric said: View Post
    At this point there is so much speculation and rumors on the go that I'm having a really hard time keeping track of what's real and what's fiction.


    At this point..... backup everything, print all your product keys (ALL), make sure you have any rescue disks/thumbs you may need, anything else that seems important to you. May sound like "Hurricane Preparedness", but much better off to be prepared than to find out after 7/29 you're up-the-creek!

    This will all work itself out. Too many variables right now.
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  8. Joined : Dec 2013
    Sydney, Nova Scotia, Canada
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    Windows 10 IoT
       05 Jun 2015 #18

    Other than the frustration of trying to answer peoples questions without putting my foot in my mouth because I quoted something that's just not true, its not a big deal for me. Being a Microsoft MVP, I get a free MSDN subscription. I'll get keys and ISO's anyway when 10 gets released. I can easily bail out and install whatever I want with no worries. The real fun will start when peoples upgrade goes south and they come asking "What do I do know". Then when you ask them did they make recovery media or an image and they say, Well, um? And do a
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  9. Joined : Oct 2013
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    W7 Pro x64 | W10 IP x64 | Linux Mint VM
       05 Jun 2015 #19

    I think, given that release date is just under eight weeks away, that MS should come out with some clear and definitive guidelines on how the installation of 10 can be performed. This is what I know so far, which probably isn't much.


    • We know about in-place upgrades for qualifying systems.
    • Gabe Aul has said Insider Preview users can upgrade straight to RTM. Do you need to have upgraded to Preview from a pre-installed 7/8/8.1 or can you just enter a valid product key?
    • The Upgrade Matrix shows ISO images available for all systems, yet Gabe Aul says the free upgrade must be performed from a previously installed OS. No clean installs using a 7/8/8.1 product key (so it sounds).
    • OEM licenses used to upgrade will remain tied to that device, Retail licenses will carry over the retail priveleges.
    • You can re-install W10 OEM licenses on the same system whenever you need to.


    Things seem to change every week unless I'm just behind the times.
    Last edited by Boozad; 05 Jun 2015 at 15:15. Reason: Clarification on re-intall OEM details.
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  10. Joined : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
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    Triple Boot 10 Pro & 10 Insider Pro & 8.1 Pro
       05 Jun 2015 #20

    Boozad said: View Post
    I think, given that release date is just under eight weeks away, that MS should come out with some clear and definitive guidelines on how the installation of 10 can be performed. This is what I know so far, which probably isn't much.


    • We know about in-place upgrades for qualifying systems.
    • Gabe Aul has said Insider Preview users can upgrade straight to RTM. Do you need to have upgraded to Preview from a pre-installed 7/8/8.1 or can you just enter a valid product key?
    • The Upgrade Matrix shows ISO images available for all systems, yet Gabe Aul says the free upgrade must be performed from a previously installed OS. No clean installs using a 7/8/8.1 product key (so it sounds).
    • OEM licenses used to upgrade will remain tied to that device, Retail licenses will carry over the retail priveleges.
    • You can re-install OEM licenses on the same system whenever you need to.


    Things seem to change every week unless I'm just behind the times.
    @Boozad, Good info here. It would answer 99.9% of my issues if you could clarify the part I hightlighted in red. I have 8.1 pre-installed dual-booting 10 preview. I have used an 8.1 MS supplied ISO, burned to DVD, to re-install because I wanted to de-crapify it. It worked fine. After upgrade to 10 on 7/29, should I be able to repeat that process? Re-install 8.1 from the same DVD as dual-boot with the real 10?
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