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  1. Joined : Jul 2015
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    Windows 10 Pro
       24 Jul 2016 #21

    NovHak said: View Post
    Btw, not that's it's overly important, but I just noticed that MS seems to have abandoned the term "Digital entitlement" in favor of "Digital license"...
    I guess Microsoft didn't want us to feel "entitled" and getting all "upity" about it
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  2. Joined : Apr 2014
    Posts : 3,313
    W10 Pro x64/W7 Ultimate x64 dual boot main - W10 Pro Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64 - remote pc
       25 Jul 2016 #22

    NavyLCDR said: View Post
    I guess Microsoft didn't want us to feel "entitled" and getting all "upity" about it
    "Gosh we can't allow any type of self grandizations over our wordings! We must rename..." some MS exec comes out with at a board meeting. "That's right! Frank We can't allow any of that nonsense! From now on nothing with the word entitled can be allowed." replies back another.
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  3. Joined : Dec 2015
    Posts : 2,435
    Windows10
       25 Jul 2016 #23

    f14tomcat said: View Post
    Same as M$, he just switched it around.
    I just find it childish when people use such terms - do they think MS is a charity?

    Why not F$ for Ford, A$ for Apple, $I for IBM.
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  4. Joined : Apr 2014
    Posts : 3,313
    W10 Pro x64/W7 Ultimate x64 dual boot main - W10 Pro Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64 - remote pc
       25 Jul 2016 #24

    I wouldn't expect too many to be considering M#zillions to be charitable while the former CEO who started MS up stated when he goes his wealth will be going to charities. As for the change of DE to DL that stands to reason as the free upgrade offer comes to a close this week after getting everybody trying 10 out while MS was sure to have more people beta testing this particular version then ever before many not even realizing that until the bugs got worked out.
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  5. Joined : Jan 2014
    Central West NSW Australia
    Posts : 413
    7 and 10 on various machines
       25 Jul 2016 #25

    NovHak said: View Post
    Of course there are reasons why it's free for 7 and 8 users, it's because they want people to leave the old Windows branches as soon as possible, so that only the (supposedly) definitive one remains. Less people on 7 and 8 likely means reduced budget on support and maybe even a sooner extended support termination.
    Yep well I agree with you as a continuing support of 7 & 8 would be at a cost to Microsoft but I think also that 7 will be around for a darn sight longer than 8 just as people are still using XP. My theory is that the older systems will get less hacking and malware than one that is being used as an exclusive one like 10. I personally have not updated my 7 Pro for a long time now and I have not noticed any difference in performance or intrusions - plus I run a software that blocks any upgrade to 10 and also that picks out 10 files that creep through from time to time.

    Now don't get me wrong I have two machines running 10 exclusively and shortly a third but I do want to keep my 7 machines running 7 as well as I do like to take part in the 7 forum for example and attaching pics and info of 7 system stuff which I am not aware of how to do using 10.
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  6. Joined : Apr 2014
    Posts : 3,313
    W10 Pro x64/W7 Ultimate x64 dual boot main - W10 Pro Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64 - remote pc
       25 Jul 2016 #26

    Vista support was extended for an additional year until next April. Originally it was thought 2016 would see the end for the Extended Support cycle. MS planned 2020 for 7 but could end extending a bit further due to how successful 7 was in comparison there for an additional year or two as well.

    But you can leave 8 out of the loop entirely as the flop it was with MS only mentioning 7 and 8.1! 8.1 was rushed out as the immediate replacement for 8. With 10 the idea was to get more people running especially Insider builds to collect much more feedback on what people were drawn to more or less as for personal preferences in an OS.

    The RS1 builds now being seen are reflecting a degree of that as well as having brought in some Linux support. Once the usual watermark was no longer seen on the latest builds that was a clear indication of RTM but instead Redstone 1 anniversary being pointed to by seeing RS1 reflected in the build numbers.
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  7. Joined : Jul 2016
    Kent, WA
    Posts : 27
    windows 7
       25 Jul 2016 #27

    GOT THE IDEA GUYS


    Ok, Guys. You got the idea. With Jan. 14 2020 the current posted extended support end-date (but remember XP ?!) the thought was that a lot could happen between now and then, at which time my guess is that there would be quite a number of available Win10 OS disks floating around at more reasonable prices than now.

    The initial solution, rollback routine, being untested from what I can tell, make its too risky for my experiences in general. Too many unknowns and that.

    Its a roll of the dice it seems, so just gonna take the least risky path for the $ and see what happens. You guys are coming up with some good ideas that are helpful indeed, which is definitely appreciated.
    Last edited by JamesEJ; 25 Jul 2016 at 12:24.
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  8. Joined : Oct 2014
    Arnold, MD
    Posts : 17,441
    Triple Boot 10 Pro & 10 Insider Pro & 8.1 Pro
       25 Jul 2016 #28

    ICIT2LOL said: View Post
    Yep well I agree with you as a continuing support of 7 & 8 would be at a cost to Microsoft but I think also that 7 will be around for a darn sight longer than 8 just as people are still using XP. My theory is that the older systems will get less hacking and malware than one that is being used as an exclusive one like 10. I personally have not updated my 7 Pro for a long time now and I have not noticed any difference in performance or intrusions - plus I run a software that blocks any upgrade to 10 and also that picks out 10 files that creep through from time to time.

    Now don't get me wrong I have two machines running 10 exclusively and shortly a third but I do want to keep my 7 machines running 7 as well as I do like to take part in the 7 forum for example and attaching pics and info of 7 system stuff which I am not aware of how to do using 10.
    Throw it in a VM? On one of your 10 boxes? Just a thought....
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  9. Joined : Aug 2014
    Australia, Adelaide
    Posts : 1,392
    W7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), LM 18.1 MATE (64 bit), W10IP VM, W10 Home
       25 Jul 2016 #29

    Try The MCT First


    NavyLCDR said: View Post
    Yes, before July 29th you can clean install Windows 10 and activate it for free by manually entering a Windows 7 product key, except for OEM:SLP product keys. You need a product key from a COA sticker or a retail product key.
    That didn't work on my Toshiba laptop.
    The ISO wouldn't accept the laptop's COA key.
    I had to use the MCT to upgrade from W7 Home Premium to W10 Home (April).

    Last week the W10 install succumbed to "Bit Rot" and died.
    I had to perform a complete Reset to fix it.

    I'm not sure what I'm going to do if I need to do a clean install.

    ICIT2LOL said: View Post
    Yep well I agree with you as a continuing support of 7 & 8 would be at a cost to Microsoft but I think also that 7 will be around for a darn sight longer than 8 just as people are still using XP.
    The W8 Series seems to be suffering the biggest market share drop due to the release of W10.
    Last edited by lehnerus2000; 25 Jul 2016 at 21:09. Reason: Quote Added
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  10. Joined : Apr 2016
    Posts : 111
    Windows 10 Professional x64
       25 Jul 2016 #30

    lehnerus2000 said: View Post
    I had to use the MCT to upgrade from W7 Home Premium to W10 Home (April).
    It was not possible before version 1511 was released, which was somewhere in november I think. That's why it didn't work for you. But now that you did it, you have a W10 digital license activated, which means your W10 will automatically detect depending on your hardware that it's licensed to run Windows and activate it without asking for a product key.
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