Any way to STARTUP/boot Windows 10 with ONLY GENERIC drivers?


  1. Posts : 420
    Windows 10 1803
       #1

    Any way to STARTUP/boot Windows 10 with ONLY GENERIC drivers?


    many have run into Windows 10 "upgrades" that install bad device drivers that cause system to hang on reboot/boot.

    Is there a way, perhaps command line, to attempt to boot the system with 'basic drivers' only, in order to step around the IED..... ???
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  2. Posts : 420
    Windows 10 1803
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    this is a crazy idea, but think of it: since windows 7 is on the hard drive, but set aside, is there a way to un-quarantine windows 7, quarantine Windows 10, nuke the MBR, build a new Windows 7 MBR, all from command line?
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  3. Posts : 1,983
    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240
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    It's the "basic drivers" that are the problem - even the WINPE for Windows 10 setup cannot cut it for some combinations of hardware, and fails at 23%, 32% or some other short figure. That is why the upgrade from 7 may work, but a subsequent clean install fails. If you compare Win10PE and Win8.1PE, the Win 10 uses a lot more resources, even though the full OSs Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 use a very similar amount.

    Heaven knows what you mean by quarantine and nuke the MBR!
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  4. Posts : 420
    Windows 10 1803
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    Fafhrd said:
    Heaven knows what you mean by quarantine and nuke the MBR!
    understandably!
    in the case of an upgrade, in this case from a well-running windows 7 to a defective windows 10, the entire Windows directory is intact on the drive, just marked so it is not accessed. I had just been wondering if, via command line interface, one could reverse the relationship, but I can see all sorts of issues; where's the old registry? [there was a restore point, but you must have windows up and running to access the restore point], the UEFI drive arrangement would need to be nixed, windows 7 boot record restored, etc etc.

    clean install the only real answer
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  5. Posts : 1,983
    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240
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    After ab upgrade, apart from the basic Windows.old folder, there is a WindowsOld.Wim file in $WINDOWS>~BT\Sources

    It may be mounted as a virtual drive or unarchived with a program such as 7-zip File manager, and the registry hives will be in the usual place under the Windows folder structure.

    I'm pretty sure that when a volume is captured to a Wim image, old restore points are discarded.
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  6. Posts : 420
    Windows 10 1803
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    appreciate the tip
    did some searching on that approach and as you would expect, not much, if any, success.
    clean install coming...

    since these things do not happen in a controlled corporate environment, MS likely does not track stats much on the cost of such snafus. in this case, an 'innocent' victim of MS relentless upgrade-push will end up shelling out about $400 in technician fees, and about 2 weeks of lost workstation productivity, all to try to rebuild what was a well-running Windows 7 system before "upgrade now".

    Fafhrd said:
    After ab upgrade, apart from the basic Windows.old folder, there is a WindowsOld.Wim file in $WINDOWS>~BT\Sources

    It may be mounted as a virtual drive or unarchived with a program such as 7-zip File manager, and the registry hives will be in the usual place under the Windows folder structure.

    I'm pretty sure that when a volume is captured to a Wim image, old restore points are discarded.
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