1. Joined : May 2015
    Posts : 34
    Windows 7 Pro 32-bit
       08 Feb 2016 #1

    I'm At My Wits In On Upgrading to Win 10


    I'll explain.. About two weeks ago I went to turn on my HP p6750f desktop PC and things didn't work as before. It appears I had parts of a Windows 10 upgrade and some of the old Windows 7 Home OS. I tried for hours to get it working, but that didn't happen. So, I decided to take my three Win 7 install discs and do a complete Recovery on the hard drive That takes about 4 hours to get it back to factory reset before I can do anything else. All went well in installing the necessary files and OS. However, when it became time to install any "updates" that didn't happen, and it never shows I have any updates to install. I know better, as I have done a factory rest before. I did the Windows SP1 upgrade, and few others by the Microsoft website, but that's it...no more upgrade after three days of waiting. Thinking there may be a error in the factory rest, I did another one, but, it 's doing the same old routine. I'm now on my fourth Factory Reset, and I'm now watching the monitor screen that the Windows 10 upgrade screen showing...Getting Updates, and it has been 8 hours searching for these updates. It shows 0%...
    So, has anyone had the same problem as I'm having?

    NOTE: I also have a HP dc7900 SFF PC that had Windows 7 Home and the Windows 10 upgrade went very well with no problems...
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  2. Joined : Jun 2015
    Posts : 1,604
    Windows 3.1 to Windows 10
       08 Feb 2016 #2

    Just download and Clean install Windows 10

    http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/softw...load/techbench
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  3. Joined : Dec 2013
    Portsmouth Hampshire
    Posts : 1,190
    Windows 10 x86 14383 Insider Pro and Core 10240
       08 Feb 2016 #3

    I reinstalled Windows 7 SP1 on an old laptop a week or 2 back. There were more than 200 updates available. Some of them failed and trashed the EDB. store so that Windows update just keeps going and getting nowhere. When you try to install an upgrade to Windows 10 on that Windows 7 system, the overactive Windows 7 update service (WUAUSERV) prevents the Windows 10 updates from getting through, and the upgrade tends to fail. Some folks have reported that stopping the WUAUSERV from the elevated command prompt (see below) a couple of times as required allows the upgrade to proceed - but it failed for me.

    You can clean install as suggested above, or you can disconnect from the internet while doing the upgrade (without updates, updating the new installation later), or you can cancel the upgrade and stop WUAUSERV and delete the following files from an admin command prompt:

    Code:
    Net stop wuauserv <enter>
    del C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\DataStore\DataStore.edb <enter>
    del C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\DataStore\logs\*.* <enter>
    Net start wuauserv <enter>
    and let the updates to the Windows 7 system completely install themselves - it could be a whole night or day to complete on an older PC. The advantage is that if you find the upgrade rolling back to 7, you have a fully patched system ready to go.

    If you decide to clean install, see here and get a "genuine ticket.xml" on your Windows 7 installation, before upgrading, and store it safely* in the event that activation does not take place, to use as a digital entitlement for your upgrade.

    *USB storage, or zip it in an email attachment to yourself, so that you can obtain it easily from the new upgrade installation.
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  4. Joined : Dec 2015
    Posts : 2,429
    Windows10
       09 Feb 2016 #4

    Fafhrd said: View Post
    I reinstalled Windows 7 SP1 on an old laptop a week or 2 back. There were more than 200 updates available. Some of them failed and trashed the EDB. store so that Windows update just keeps going and getting nowhere. When you try to install an upgrade to Windows 10 on that Windows 7 system, the overactive Windows 7 update service (WUAUSERV) prevents the Windows 10 updates from getting through, and the upgrade tends to fail. Some folks have reported that stopping the WUAUSERV from the elevated command prompt (see below) a couple of times as required allows the upgrade to proceed - but it failed for me.

    You can clean install as suggested above, or you can disconnect from the internet while doing the upgrade (without updates, updating the new installation later), or you can cancel the upgrade and stop WUAUSERV and delete the following files from an admin command prompt:

    Code:
    Net stop wuauserv <enter>
    del C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\DataStore\DataStore.edb <enter>
    del C:\Windows\SoftwareDistribution\DataStore\logs\*.* <enter>
    Net start wuauserv <enter>
    and let the updates to the Windows 7 system completely install themselves - it could be a whole night or day to complete on an older PC. The advantage is that if you find the upgrade rolling back to 7, you have a fully patched system ready to go.

    If you decide to clean install, see here and get a "genuine ticket.xml" on your Windows 7 installation, before upgrading, and store it safely* in the event that activation does not take place, to use as a digital entitlement for your upgrade.

    *USB storage, or zip it in an email attachment to yourself, so that you can obtain it easily from the new upgrade installation.
    OP - This is all unnecessary, especially since build 10586 was released.

    Create usb installation stick, using media creation tool as per Kyhi's post.

    To upgrade - insert usb stick whist running Windows 7, and run setup.exe. No need to update Windows 7.

    To clean install - boot from usb stick, and select custom install, and use Windows 7 key to activate it.

    Important: make sure you know your Windows 7 installation key (need the COA key if pc came with Windows 7 preinstalled - usually on a blue sticker on base of pc).
    Last edited by cereberus; 09 Feb 2016 at 11:28.
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  5. Joined : May 2015
    Posts : 34
    Windows 7 Pro 32-bit
       09 Feb 2016 #5

    UPDATE: After 16 hours of running Windows 10 upgrade trying to download the latest windows updates to install Ten, the computer did complete it's operation to Ten. I now have Windows 10 working well... That is, I think it's working okay. There must have been a lot of Updates that needed to be installed before Ten to start it's download.

    NOTE: I have Windows 10 on another HP desktop that was running Windows 7 Home, and this Windows 10 Home on this PC is completely different. It has the APPS, but, they are more and different than the other PC. That doesn't concern me, as I don't use these APPS. However, I did notice this version of Ten is faster than the other PC with Ten. I realize the reason... this PC has a larger hard drive, and a dual-core cpu and twice the memory. If that makes it a good reason it's faster.
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  6. Joined : Dec 2015
    Posts : 2,429
    Windows10
       09 Feb 2016 #6

    FD611V said: View Post
    UPDATE: After 16 hours of running Windows 10 upgrade trying to download the latest windows updates to install Ten, the computer did complete it's operation to Ten. I now have Windows 10 working well... That is, I think it's working okay. There must have been a lot of Updates that needed to be installed before Ten to start it's download.

    NOTE: I have Windows 10 on another HP desktop that was running Windows 7 Home, and this Windows 10 Home on this PC is completely different. It has the APPS, but, they are more and different than the other PC. That doesn't concern me, as I don't use these APPS. However, I did notice this version of Ten is faster than the other PC with Ten. I realize the reason... this PC has a larger hard drive, and a dual-core cpu and twice the memory. If that makes it a good reason it's faster.
    Would have only taken a couple of hours if you manually upgraded (see my earlier post), but you had already started, so I guess it was too late.

    Good news is if you wish to install Windows 10 on same pc again, you can clean install ie no need to reinstall Window 7 any more.
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