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  1. Joined : Aug 2015
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    w10
       25 Aug 2015 #1

    Brand new computer - final intent of installing w10


    When recieving a brand new PC with no OS installed, with the final intent of having w10.
    Am i correct in saying that the "safest" way to achieve sucessfull w10 activation is an w8.1 w/key installation, followed by a w10 upgrade/clean install?

    Also, is there any reasons why I should choose a w10 clean install over a w10 upgrade seeing as the PC is brand new?

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  2. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,934
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       25 Aug 2015 #2

    knugelknut said: View Post
    When recieving a brand new PC with no OS installed, with the final intent of having w10.
    Am i correct in saying that the "safest" way to achieve sucessfull w10 activation is an w8.1 w/key installation, followed by a w10 upgrade/clean install?

    Also, is there any reasons why I should choose a w10 clean install over a w10 upgrade seeing as the PC is brand new?

    Yes,, that would be the way to go.. WIn8.1.. install, activate and upgrade to 10. As for the clean instillation.. it's up to you but I found that the upgrade on a freshly installed Win8.1 had zero issues.

    Jeff
    PS congrats on the new PC!!
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  3. Joined : Jul 2015
    Posts : 6,879
    Windows 10 Pro
       25 Aug 2015 #3

    The safest way to obtain a successful Windows 10 activation would be to purchase either an OEM or Retail Windows 10 key/license, but that would also be the most expensive.

    Or, install Windows 8.1. Make sure it is permanently activated. Upgrade in place from the running Windows 8.1 to Windows 10. Ensure that is activated. Make sure to select the option to keep programs and data. If the upgrade asks you to enter a product key, it ain't going right - stop and cancel and figure it out because you won't get a Windows 10 activation.

    It's up to you if you clean install after that. You can remove the clutter from the previous Windows 8.1 using a couple different disk cleanup tools. If you decide to do a clean install, when it asks for a product key click on the tiny text that allows you to "skip" it.
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  4. Joined : Feb 2015
    Bamberg Germany
    Posts : 12,905
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 14393 Multiprocessor Free
       25 Aug 2015 #4

    To get 10 free you have to upgrade first to activate it for that PC. Then you can do a clean install afterwards and it will automatically activate. See this thread: Frequently Asked Questions about the Windows 10 Free upgrade
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  5. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 23
    w10
       25 Aug 2015 #5

    thanks for all the answers guys!
    Am I correct in saying that using the "upgrade option" in this case for upgrading to w10 will give me a w8.1 recovery partition, in addition to the then "new" w10 recovery partition?

    Am I also correct when saying that the w8.1 partition, only serves the purpose of reverting back to w8.1 via a "downgrade"?

    cheers
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  6. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,934
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       25 Aug 2015 #6

    knugelknut said: View Post
    thanks for all the answers guys!
    Am I correct in saying that using the "upgrade option" in this case for upgrading to w10 will give me a w8.1 recovery partition, in addition to the then "new" w10 recovery partition?

    Am I also correct when saying that the w8.1 partition, only serves the purpose of reverting back to w8.1 via a "downgrade"?

    cheers
    You'll get a windows.old folder and that will be the way windows downgrades.
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  7. Joined : Feb 2015
    Bamberg Germany
    Posts : 12,905
    Microsoft Windows 10 Pro 64-bit 14393 Multiprocessor Free
       25 Aug 2015 #7

    BunnyJ said: View Post
    You'll get a windows.old folder and that will be the way windows downgrades.
    I believe then you only have 30 days to decide to go back, then the restore option(point) is automatically deleted, even though the .old folder remains. For the case that you "might want to" go back to 8.1, you should create a system image.
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  8. Joined : Jan 2014
    Oak Ridge TN, USA
    Posts : 23,934
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       25 Aug 2015 #8

    Cliff S said: View Post
    I believe then you only have 30 days to decide too then the restore option(point) is automatically deleted, even though the .old folder remains. For the case that you "might want to" go back to 8.1, you should create a system image.
    True..
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  9. Joined : Aug 2015
    Posts : 23
    w10
       25 Aug 2015 #9

    thanks again for the swift answers guys! you are awesome <3

    Then, does that mean that after sucessfully upgrading to w10 I can just use a disk cleanup tool to delete the w8.1 recovery partition? seeing as it doesnt really have any real use since its not used for downgrading(as opposed to the windows.old folder) ?
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  10. Joined : Jul 2015
    Posts : 6,879
    Windows 10 Pro
       25 Aug 2015 #10

    knugelknut said: View Post
    thanks again for the swift answers guys! you are awesome <3

    Then, does that mean that after sucessfully upgrading to w10 I can just use a disk cleanup tool to delete the w8.1 recovery partition? seeing as it doesnt really have any real use since its not used for downgrading(as opposed to the windows.old folder) ?
    You would have to use a disk partitioning program like MiniTool Partition Wizard to delete the recovery partition and then extend your operating system partition to reclaim the space (Well, you can also do it in disk management in Windows, but I have never trusted that to do what I want). On a new PC with no factory OS on it, I do not keep a recovery partition because it is just as easy to pop in a USB drive with the install media stored on it.
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