Windows 10: Is the Nvidia 1080 Compatible with My PC Parts?

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  1.    07 Jul 2016 #11

    bobkn said: View Post
    1)
    If you think I'm being inconsistent, it's because I'm trying to suggest a variety of alternatives. I can't (or won't) point you at a single board and say it's the one you must use. My specific knowledge is hopelessly out of date: my latest build is from late 2014 (I7-5930k, X99 chipset).
    Hi bobkm. I now understand your concern. I thank you for it. Now, ever since you suggested the Asus mobo I've been reconsidering the mobo I'm thinking of getting. That said, it now comes down to these 2 mobos.

    I know you already gave your suggestion. But I want to give you additional info to help you help me make a better decision.

    1) I don't want to do Sli or Xfire.
    2) I want my desktop for gaming but will buy an Nvidia 1080 in the future, just don't know when.
    3) I'm on a budget.
    4) I don't need to OC - unless that can future-proof the mobo.

    Also, the mobo you suggest can OC ram. And its got other features I'm sure the other mobo lacks. If you think this Asus is still a better option for me then I'll buy it. I just hope the audio on it is very good.

    Please let me know.. I'm going to make a decision as soon as you reply. Thanks.

    ASUS Z170-E LGA 1151 Intel Z170 HDMI SATA 6Gbs USB 3.1 USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - Newegg.com

    MSI H110M Gaming LGA 1151 Intel H110 HDMI SATA 6Gbs USB 3.1 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Newegg.com

    ------- EDIT -------
    I finished reading all the reviews of the Asus mobo you suggested. There are complaints about the long boot times. This is a red flag for me. Just letting you know.
    Last edited by xlook; 07 Jul 2016 at 21:30.
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  2.    08 Jul 2016 #12

    xlook said: View Post
    Hi bobkm. I now understand your concern. I thank you for it. Now, ever since you suggested the Asus mobo I've been reconsidering the mobo I'm thinking of getting. That said, it now comes down to these 2 mobos.

    I know you already gave your suggestion. But I want to give you additional info to help you help me make a better decision.

    1) I don't want to do Sli or Xfire.
    2) I want my desktop for gaming but will buy an Nvidia 1080 in the future, just don't know when.
    3) I'm on a budget.
    4) I don't need to OC - unless that can future-proof the mobo.

    Also, the mobo you suggest can OC ram. And its got other features I'm sure the other mobo lacks. If you think this Asus is still a better option for me then I'll buy it. I just hope the audio on it is very good.

    Please let me know.. I'm going to make a decision as soon as you reply. Thanks.

    ASUS Z170-E LGA 1151 Intel Z170 HDMI SATA 6Gbs USB 3.1 USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard - Newegg.com

    MSI H110M Gaming LGA 1151 Intel H110 HDMI SATA 6Gbs USB 3.1 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard - Newegg.com

    ------- EDIT -------
    I finished reading all the reviews of the Asus mobo you suggested. There are complaints about the long boot times. This is a red flag for me. Just letting you know.
    The two boards use the same Realtek audio chip. That doesn't mean that the sound on both boards would be identical: different board layouts can give different amounts of noise from the digital signals, the DACs may be different, etc. I'd expect the differences to be trivial, though.

    I wouldn't worry about future proofing. The ability to use faster RAM than Intel specifies for the CPU is nice, but it's probably of little use in practice. If a future CPU needed changes, that would probably be supported by a BIOS update by the board maker anyway.

    Overclocking is also of little use to you. Maybe a good overclocking board would be made with more robust components, making it more reliable for ordinary use. At a higher cost, possibly. (My late mother always said "You get what you pay for." I often added "If you're lucky.")

    You wouldn't buy the Asus board if it took another 10-20 seconds to boot than the MSI one? That would be a minor factor in my choice. I wonder whether the reviewer compared similar settings. My Asrock board has 3 boot settings in UEFI: normal, fast, and ultra fast. I haven't used ultra fast much because it may prevent the PC from seeing hotkey inputs during POST. (If something screws up, you'd have to clear the CMOS to allow you to get into UEFI settings.)

    I'd almost suggest buying a commercial PC (Dell, HP, etc.) if you wish to save money. The main problem with that is that commercial PCs tend to come with a PSU that is just adequate for the components they ship with. Having to replace the PSU to add a GTX 1080 would hurt the cost effectiveness of the purchase.
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  3.    08 Jul 2016 #13

    bobkn said: View Post

    I'd almost suggest buying a commercial PC (Dell, HP, etc.) if you wish to save money. The main problem with that is that commercial PCs tend to come with a PSU that is just adequate for the components they ship with. Having to replace the PSU to add a GTX 1080 would hurt the cost effectiveness of the purchase.
    Actually, commercial PCs are more expensive than my custom build. I checked. So I'll be buying a custom build.

    It looks like you're suggesting that I go with the mobo I originally posted. I really wanted to buy the mobo you suggested though. Its just that 20 - 30 sec boot time just kills it for me. Its the ONLY thing preventing me from buying it.

    I don't want to end up buying the mobo I posted initially then have your words haunt me in the back of my head if I can't get the Nvidia 1080 to fit on it, although the case has enough room for it.
    Last edited by xlook; 08 Jul 2016 at 13:42.
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  4.    08 Jul 2016 #14

    xlook said: View Post
    Actually, commercial PCs are more expensive than my custom build. I checked. So I'll be buying a custom build.

    It looks like you're suggesting that I go with the mobo I originally posted. I really wanted to buy the mobo you suggested though. Its just that 20 - 30 sec boot time just kills it for me. Its the ONLY thing preventing me from buying it.

    I don't want to end up buying the mobo I posted initially then have your words haunt me in the back of my head if I can't get the Nvidia 1080 to fit on it, although the case has enough room for it.
    Cheaper than commercial, good. Are you including a Windows license in that?

    I don't sympathize with the "20 - 30 sec boot time just kills it for me". Each to his own compulsions, I guess.

    I'm pretty sure that you'll have no trouble with a 1080 on the MSI board. The only difficulty I have ever had with graphics cards due to the motherboard was when the card overlaid a cable connector. If the 1080 goes over the SATA ports, it won't interfere, as the cables go off the back of the board rather than vertically.

    Short version: you'll be fine with the MSI micro-ATX board.

    (Even if you weren't, the MB is a small percentage of the build budget. If you had to buy a new one, it would hardly be a financial disaster.)
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  5.    08 Jul 2016 #15

    bobkn said: View Post

    Short version: you'll be fine with the MSI micro-ATX board.

    (Even if you weren't, the MB is a small percentage of the build budget. If you had to buy a new one, it would hardly be a financial disaster.)
    Thanks bobkn. I'll visit the MSI forums and find out to make sure that the mobo doesn't physically interfere with other parts of it.
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