1.    22 Jun 2016 #1
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    Nvidia driver 368.20 from WU - WDDM 2.1 and DirectX DDI 11.4.


    The nvidia drivers have been updated on WU, to version 368.20.
    I opened DXDiag and noticed WDDM was also updated to v2.1 and the DirectX DDI to v11.4.

    Is this a beta driver? Or is DxDiag displaying incorrect information?

    Because the latest driver from the nvidia site (368.29) shows WDDM 2.0 and DX DDI 11.3.
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  2.    24 Jun 2016 #2
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    No one?
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  3.    24 Jun 2016 #3
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    I sincerely doubt it's a beta driver. WU only serves up WHQL drivers, I believe. If you run dxdiag, it should tell you if it's WHQL or not.

    I tend to download my drivers directly from Nvidia, as the drivers Windows Update provides are stripped down (no Nvidia Control Panel) and tend to be older and not updated as often. Still, it's weird that it would have seemingly newer technologies than the newest drivers on Nvidia's website.

    Here's what I've found about D3D 11.4, via Microsoft:

    The following functionality has been added in Direct3D 11.4.

    Direct3D device removal
    The RegisterDeviceRemovedEvent, and UnregisterDeviceRemoved methods are supported by a new interface, ID3D11Device4, to support receiving an asynchronous event notification when a Direct3D device has been removed.


    Multithreaded protection
    To ensure that graphics commands in particular are executed in a specific order, the ID3D11Multithread interface has methods to turn multithread protection on and off, and methods to enter and leave critical code requiring this protection.
    As for WDDM 2.1, I can't really seem to find anything relevant on it. Sorry.
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  4.    24 Jun 2016 #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackroseMD1 View Post
    I sincerely doubt it's a beta driver. WU only serves up WHQL drivers, I believe. If you run dxdiag, it should tell you if it's WHQL or not.

    I tend to download my drivers directly from Nvidia, as the drivers Windows Update provides are stripped down (no Nvidia Control Panel) and tend to be older and not updated as often. Still, it's weird that it would have seemingly newer technologies than the newest drivers on Nvidia's website.

    Here's what I've found about D3D 11.4, via Microsoft:



    As for WDDM 2.1, I can't really seem to find anything relevant on it. Sorry.
    Yep, seems the drivers are WHQL. Maybe WDDM 2.1 and D3D 11.4 are specific for Redstone and require this specific driver version to be enabled?

    I couldn't find much info about this too.
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  5.    24 Jun 2016 #5
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    Windows update has never pulled in new nvidia drivers automatically for me in the 6 months I've had the machine. I'm still on 355 driver branch. I'm not complaining as I would hate Windows update to do this as I only want to update gpu drivers when I'm good and ready - but I do wonder how Windows update works in this respect, are drivers likely to come tumbling down the pipe when I least expect it? Seems strange it hasn't happened at all. I did get an automatic driver update for my gigabit Ethernet a while back so the feature is active.
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  6.    24 Jun 2016 #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottyboy99 View Post
    Windows update has never pulled in new nvidia drivers automatically for me in the 6 months I've had the machine. I'm still on 355 driver branch. I'm not complaining as I would hate Windows update to do this as I only want to update gpu drivers when I'm good and ready - but I do wonder how Windows update works in this respect, are drivers likely to come tumbling down the pipe when I least expect it? Seems strange it hasn't happened at all. I did get an automatic driver update for my gigabit Ethernet a while back so the feature is active.
    I read somewhere that the "Fast Ring" is also used to update drivers. Maybe 368.20 is available only for insiders, and will eventually hit the general public.

    I may be wrong though.
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  7.    24 Jun 2016 #7
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    Ok thanks - I know it's possible to tell Windows 10 not to update drivers but unfortunately it seems to be an all or nothing scenario. Gpu drivers are definetely something I don't want being tampered with but I want to keep the option enabled so if other devices or hardware is installed they will get the drivers. It's just strange that in six months they have never updated - I guess I've been lucky !! Quite why MS does not allow us the option to refuse a driver update is baffling - if it ain't broke then I don't fix it!!!
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  8.    24 Jun 2016 #8
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    And the worst is that the OS will install/Update the display drivers even if you disable this option on Advanced System Properties > Hardware.

    This happened once :/
    Maybe just a bug.
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  9.    24 Jun 2016 #9
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    I've been using this with great success at stopping certain updates that I don't want while not stopping those updates that I do want.
    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/8...dows-10-a.html
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  10.    29 Oct 2016 #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scottyboy99 View Post
    Windows update has never pulled in new nvidia drivers automatically for me in the 6 months I've had the machine. I'm still on 355 driver branch. I'm not complaining as I would hate Windows update to do this as I only want to update gpu drivers when I'm good and ready - but I do wonder how Windows update works in this respect, are drivers likely to come tumbling down the pipe when I least expect it? Seems strange it hasn't happened at all. I did get an automatic driver update for my gigabit Ethernet a while back so the feature is active.
    windows updates only installs the main driver for image on screen.
    not any Physx or 3D bla bla drivers fro gaming.

    if you game , download the full nvidia package and fresh reinstall.
    after build update , Intel or Nvidia sound drivers might also be stuck in windows .old.
    system cleaner will have trouble remove the folder if you used that.

    best is to install IGPU and GPU drivers after build updates.
    and fastboot in windows 10 is bugging nvidia features , like color management.

    can disable that at energy settings , choose what power buttons do page.
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