Windows 10: [RANT] Since 3D took over, 2D performance is neglected

  1.    10 May 2016 #1

    [RANT] Since 3D took over, 2D performance is neglected


    Hello.

    It seems this comes from a long way (maybe since the days of Windows XP). Now it seems modern Windows Operating Systems don't perform well when working with 2D (even whether there is any real 2D or not). I am a PC gamer and I am quite satisfied with the gaming performance of my GTX 970 card (and many others, be they nVidia or AMD).

    Anyway nowadays I am feeling that 2D performance in general is very lackluster for modern videocards. I must confess I can be very picky at times but I swear I can see the dialogs redrawing sometimes. It's pretty annoying.
    Working with any common applications and/or Photoshop and the like doesn't feel better either. I think this all stems from the fact that MS in its infinite wisdom has been changing APIs since the Windows 3.x times. I don't know how 2D acceleration is handled in w10, but I think it uses WPF (Windows Presentation Foundation) or something like that (correct me if I am wrong).

    Well, I have found out that fastest 2D performance comes with integrated video . Yes, integrated Intel video (HDxxxx) seems to perform a lot better than my overpriced nVidia card. I have also tested some AMD cards earlier and they didn't perform better either. What is even more disturbing is that ancient pci cards performed even better (I think it was the APIs used at that time rather than the hardware but who knows).

    Anyway. I am pretty pissed off with this. All these modern state of the art hardware (hefty microprocessors, very fast ram, very nice pci express bus, etc) but you cannot get some nice performance from common usage.

    Maybe someone knows some bag of tricks for speeding up 2D operation... (wishful thinking...)

    Your ideas and comments are welcome.
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  2.    11 May 2016 #2

    The question is not 2D or 3D. It is FHD, 2k, 4k, 6k or 8k HD's displays. There are no reason to dig 2D stories again.
    What is your ultimate purpose for 2D displaying?
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  3.    13 May 2016 #3

    Maybe 2D isn't real 2D anymore. I am referring to fast windows desktop usage feeling.
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  4.    13 May 2016 #4

    Did you notice that frequencies of graphic cards when using strictly 2D are almost same for years back ? My old Matrox from 1990s had 300 MHz 2D frequency and new present one rarely goes over 400MHz even under high loads.
      My ComputersSystem Spec

  5.    14 May 2016 #5

    No. I haven't noticed. Thank you for pointing that out.
      My ComputerSystem Spec

  6.    14 May 2016 #6

    20 years ago, the GPU card RAM is about 128MB. During that time, 512MB GPU card RAM is workstation class. But now, you are understood.
    What I want to mention is, in future, the gap GPU card for workstation and high specs gaming GPU card will become closer and closer until they are no differences.
    The phenomena that happens now, 2D and 3D are the same story.
      My ComputerSystem Spec


 

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