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  1.    20 Apr 2016 #11
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    O.k., you did set the DPI Scaling back to 100% in Display settings ? You enabled Clear Type and you went through adjusting it by selecting each text that looked clear to you through this ?

    Is this GPU Display Adapter built into the CPU and Motherboard, ATI Radeon HD, i believe it might be but i do not have those specs to see your board ? Does the ATI Radeon have a DVI connection to try also ?

    I am not sure if it is the monitor, it's settings or something in Windows or settings in Windows, since it is only text and never stated images being blurry. Did you go through monitor settings ( menu on the monitor itself ) ?
    One question i overlooked to ask when did this occur since an upgrade to Windows 10 or the purchase of this monitor or you always had this monitor ? Never really stated clearly on this.
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  2.    21 Apr 2016 #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by jds63 View Post
    O.k., you did set the DPI Scaling back to 100% in Display settings ? You enabled Clear Type and you went through adjusting it by selecting each text that looked clear to you through this ?

    Is this GPU Display Adapter built into the CPU and Motherboard, ATI Radeon HD, i believe it might be but i do not have those specs to see your board ? Does the ATI Radeon have a DVI connection to try also ?

    I am not sure if it is the monitor, it's settings or something in Windows or settings in Windows, since it is only text and never stated images being blurry. Did you go through monitor settings ( menu on the monitor itself ) ?
    One question i overlooked to ask when did this occur since an upgrade to Windows 10 or the purchase of this monitor or you always had this monitor ? Never really stated clearly on this.
    I think it was also poorer quality in winows 8.1 as well now that I think about it, but definitely not this bad...it IS the tesxt that is most noteably bad but could be everything too, it's just the text is more noticeable because I'm always looking at it and it's harder on the eyes to read it versus looking at background/pics/content etc...I have already tried all the settings changes and tweaks for months into a couple years now, no change...
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  3.    21 Apr 2016 #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by guitz View Post
    I think it was also poorer quality in winows 8.1 as well now that I think about it, but definitely not this bad...it IS the tesxt that is most noteably bad but could be everything too, it's just the text is more noticeable because I'm always looking at it and it's harder on the eyes to read it versus looking at background/pics/content etc...I have already tried all the settings changes and tweaks for months into a couple years now, no change...
    When i look back at your first post the text does not look that bad, plus this is through a browser on this site, not from text in an app or program on the PC for a screen capture. Have not tried a different connection,DVI or VGA to see if it solves it.
    Older Graphics card built in or not to the board i do not know and now we feel it happened in Windows 8.1 so it may not be an issue with Windows 10 alone.

    Unless you can try this monitor elsewhere or get another monitor on this PC and or try a different connection if you have one and a cable. Not sure if all else is blurry except text, take a good look ? Can you fill in the model of the ASUS Motherboard ?
    Can not think of any other settings in Windows that is going to help, calibrating the monitor through windows deals with color, your not using Magnifier and your back to 100% on scaling, correct.
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  4.    21 Apr 2016 #14

    Quote Originally Posted by guitz View Post
    Look at how AWFUL windows 10 fonts and text are...I have tried so many solutions that I've read about online but NOTHING has worked! I'm wondering if either windows 10 fonts will not render correctly with this monitor model or windows 10 cannot deal with the higher resolution of HDMI...I've tried that incredibly ineffective and useless 'cleartype' turned ON, have all setting 'native' for my monitor, an LG27EA63...have tried using the 'revert to windows 8' small rendering program and at least a dozen other fixes and it still looks like utter garbage as seen below....At this point, I'm thinking I should try hooking up a VGA or DMI cable , and see if that looks better than this...the font quality and general picture quality is so poor, it's causing me headaches for extended use. Anyone have any other things to try tweaking? examples below...

    Attachment 75673Attachment 75674
    You are supposed to use DVI or Display port for best results HDMI is ok but for crisper resolution Display port or DVI is just a lot better
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  5.    22 Apr 2016 #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by jds63 View Post
    When i look back at your first post the text does not look that bad, plus this is through a browser on this site, not from text in an app or program on the PC for a screen capture. Have not tried a different connection,DVI or VGA to see if it solves it.
    Older Graphics card built in or not to the board i do not know and now we feel it happened in Windows 8.1 so it may not be an issue with Windows 10 alone.

    Unless you can try this monitor elsewhere or get another monitor on this PC and or try a different connection if you have one and a cable. Not sure if all else is blurry except text, take a good look ? Can you fill in the model of the ASUS Motherboard ?
    Can not think of any other settings in Windows that is going to help, calibrating the monitor through windows deals with color, your not using Magnifier and your back to 100% on scaling, correct.
    I'm really comparing it to my work pc running windows 7 and an IBM 24" monitor...it's not just the text that is harder on the eyes, it's almost like the old days of CRT monitors...where if you didn't have the refresh rate at optimum setting, it gave you a headache because of the blurriness, that kind of deal.....I'm going to systematically start replacing stuff , starting with the video card on suspicion that the driver is much older and wasn't necessarily designed for windows 10 and isn't even being updated by the manufacturer , but hopefully ending before having to buy another monitor...I do have an old CRT , but its only got the VGA connector.
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  6.    22 Apr 2016 #16

    Hi there.

    Have a look also on the Monitor HARDWARE controls too -- have a look for example at picture settings -- adjust properly things like SHARPNESS, Contrast, colour, Brightness etc. On some monitors there's also Backlight controls. If you have a Gamma control use that too - it's more effective at times than Brightness / Contrast combo.

    Having the Hardware settings not properly set can cause real problems with the picture -- not always Windows fault.

    On some monitors you'll only be able to get into these settings with the handset - especially if it's a dual purpose monitor - i.e TV / Monitor. Choose Menu or Setup on the handset.

    Check also FREQUENCY is correct -- this is done in the Advanced settings when you are in Windows-->display settings

    Cheers
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  7.    22 Apr 2016 #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by guitz View Post
    I'm really comparing it to my work pc running windows 7 and an IBM 24" monitor...it's not just the text that is harder on the eyes, it's almost like the old days of CRT monitors...where if you didn't have the refresh rate at optimum setting, it gave you a headache because of the blurriness, that kind of deal.....I'm going to systematically start replacing stuff , starting with the video card on suspicion that the driver is much older and wasn't necessarily designed for windows 10 and isn't even being updated by the manufacturer , but hopefully ending before having to buy another monitor...I do have an old CRT , but its only got the VGA connector.
    Well IBM is used for businesses, i thought they were bought out by another company. Refresh rate i feel should not affect sharpness of a picture if it was off would cause flickering in the picture. You can double check this in Windows or with your AMD driver software, but windows and the driver will usually automatically set the proper refresh rate usually 60hz and along with the native resolution of the monitor.

    Yes this card is an older model and no longer supported for driver updates, but that does not mean the Video Card will not work with the drivers for Windows 10 it stated updates would be only available within windows update, i believe Windows 8 might of been the last made drivers.

    I am not sure about changing the video card yet in case it could be something else, the monitor, it's connections (HDMI) ,the monitors settings or some other conflict. I know it is frustrating, but changing other hardware at a cost may not solve it unless you want to upgrade the Video Card for other reasons.

    Old CRT is going to be no comparison i feel with a VGA connection to tell.

    There are some things you have not tried yet and telling me about to be able to help you further. Does the Video card have a DVI connection, have you tried it ? Did you go through checking the settings on the monitor ? So the Video Card is separate i have been asking this a number of times and for the model of the ASUS Motherboard so i can also check the support site. I think i also asked if you had this monitor before Windows 10 on a PC and how it worked ? You have no other monitor to try on this PC or try this monitor on another PC, this may then tell you if the monitor is o.k..

    Safe mode will eliminate the AMD driver and use a basic Microsoft Driver, but will also run at a lower resolution and really not look better, well see how it looks though you can try.
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  8.    01 May 2016 #18
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    I've had similar issues since moving to 10 from 7.
    For me 7 was far superior in display setup.
    Its not your graphics card or monitor, its definitely 10 as the problem.
    I cant even use regular themes anymore I'm forced into high contrast.

    Heres a few of the links i have. Ive posted this a few different ways and there
    may be some good advice in these fro you.

    BUT I'm afraid without MS doing some real upgrades to the OS fonts and screen display
    is now compromised for phone and tablet users, and it really sucks.

    Windows 10 DPI blurry / fuzzy text font fix - XP Explorer
    Solved FIX | Windows 10 Blurry Text and Windows! - Windows 10 Forums
    Problem with brightness on Desktop. - Windows 10 Forums
    DPI Scaling Level for Displays - Change in Windows 10 - Windows 10 Forums
    High Contrast Theme Problem - Windows 10 Forums
    Font size in files and folders explorer - Windows 10 Forums
    Yet Another Font Issue in Win 10 - Windows 10 Forums
    Disable 10's auto-brightness adjustment capabilities? - Windows 10 Forums
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  9.    02 May 2016 #19

    Quote Originally Posted by msny View Post
    I've had similar issues since moving to 10 from 7.
    For me 7 was far superior in display setup.
    Its not your graphics card or monitor, its definitely 10 as the problem.
    I cant even use regular themes anymore I'm forced into high contrast.

    Heres a few of the links i have. Ive posted this a few different ways and there
    may be some good advice in these fro you.

    BUT I'm afraid without MS doing some real upgrades to the OS fonts and screen display
    is now compromised for phone and tablet users, and it really sucks.

    Windows 10 DPI blurry / fuzzy text font fix - XP Explorer
    Solved FIX | Windows 10 Blurry Text and Windows! - Windows 10 Forums
    Problem with brightness on Desktop. - Windows 10 Forums
    DPI Scaling Level for Displays - Change in Windows 10 - Windows 10 Forums
    High Contrast Theme Problem - Windows 10 Forums
    Font size in files and folders explorer - Windows 10 Forums
    Yet Another Font Issue in Win 10 - Windows 10 Forums
    Disable 10's auto-brightness adjustment capabilities? - Windows 10 Forums
    Hi there

    have any of you actually tried some of the HARDWARE settings from the HARDWARE menu (via Handset etc -- not from Windows) -- a lot of these problems aren't Windows Fault but incorrect hardware settings.

    I've posted this stuff because it actually does work for a lot of monitors -- there's no point IMO of just bashing around with Windows settings if it doesn't work --at least TRY the hardware settings. I

    If the fonts were generally as bad as you say then zillions of people would have complained already -- and there haven't been masses of complaints about this.

    I've tried this on at least 3 LG monitors and TV's up to 42 inch --and works fine.

    Windows 7 settings will be easier since in the last few years we have now really MONSTER size TV's with far superior graphics etc so drivers will by necessity be more complex than W7 - this is why sometimes you need to adjust the hardware as well.

    Cheers
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  10.    02 May 2016 #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
    Hi there

    have any of you actually tried some of the HARDWARE settings from the HARDWARE menu (via Handset etc -- not from Windows) -- a lot of these problems aren't Windows Fault but incorrect hardware settings.

    I've posted this stuff because it actually does work for a lot of monitors -- there's no point IMO of just bashing around with Windows settings if it doesn't work --at least TRY the hardware settings. I

    If the fonts were generally as bad as you say then zillions of people would have complained already -- and there haven't been masses of complaints about this.

    I've tried this on at least 3 LG monitors and TV's up to 42 inch --and works fine.

    Windows 7 settings will be easier since in the last few years we have now really MONSTER size TV's with far superior graphics etc so drivers will by necessity be more complex than W7 - this is why sometimes you need to adjust the hardware as well.

    Cheers
    jimbo
    By "hardware" I assume you mean the monitors picture controls ?
    Yes and nothing has worked for me no matter what I try. Fonts are blurry
    and the standard themes are bad.

    But I fail to see the comparison.
    If I have not changed these "hardware" settings going from 7 to 10, then
    by definition 10 has forced me to do this. Minor changes I understand
    but the ones I had to make were pretty drastic just to make it readable

    I've been a system builder for 30 years, never had so many display and graphics issues
    from window 3.1 to window 10.
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