Does the monitor display anything if the graphics card is faulty?

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  1. Posts : 337
    Windows 10 Home 64 bit x64 Version 22H2
       #1

    Does the monitor display anything if the graphics card is faulty?


    Hello,

    1. If the CPU chip comes without integrated graphics card, can you see anything on the screen (e.g. BIOS) if the independent dedicated graphics card is faulty?

    2. If the CPU chip comes with integrated graphics card and the integrated graphics card is faulty, can you see anything on the screen (e.g. BIOS) if the independent dedicated graphics card is faulty?

    3. If the CPU chip comes with integrated graphics card and the integrated graphics card is faulty, can you see anything on the screen (e.g. BIOS) if the independent dedicated graphics card is in good working condition?

    4. If the CPU chip comes with integrated graphics card and you install a good working condition independent dedicated graphics card, does the motherboard automatic use the independent dedicated graphics and ignore the integrated graphics card?

    5. If the CPU chip comes with integrated graphics card and you have been using a good working condition independent dedicated graphics card, suddenly one day the independent dedicated graphics card becomes faulty does the motherboard automatic use the integrated graphics and ignore the independent dedicated graphics card? If yes does it mean the user might not even notice the independent dedicated graphics card has become faulty, since the user still see images on the monitor?

    6. [AMD ryzen 5700g without graphics card] vs [5600x with a graphics card], which one is faster? If they are same speed, which one more value for money or pros/cons?

    7. If the integrated graphics card in the 5700g is faulty, does it mean I would need to change the whole ryzen 5700g chip?

    8. If the integrated graphics card in the 5700g is faulty, can I add a graphics card on the motherboard and continue use the 5700g without removing it?

    9. I was thinking if the motherboard sense that there is a independent dedicated graphics card it would use it first and ignore the integrated graphics card in the 5700g cpu chip, is it correct?

    10. Correct me if I am wrong, I am a noob, I was thinking using a independent dedicated graphics card on motherboard is better because graphics card would become faulty faster than the cpu chip. It is easier to change a independent dedicated graphics card (just plug out/plug in) than changing a cpu chip (I assume must change the whole cpu chip even if only the integrated graphics is faulty?)? (I don't know how to apply/remove thermal paste, metal spring hook to remove/insert cpu chip, remove/insert cooler fan)

    11. What do you think of these 3 PSU below?

    Silverstone 650 W 80+ Gold VIVA 650 Gold

    Cosair RM650 503 - Service Unavailable Error

    Seasonic Focus GM-650 Amazon.com: Seasonic Focus GM-650, 650W, Semi-Modular, Fits All ATX Systems, Fan Control in Silent and Cooling Mode, Perfect Power Supply for Gaming and Various Application : Electronics

    Thanks
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  2. Posts : 295
    Windows 10 Pro
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    1) Yes. In terms of BIOS display.

    2) Maybe. But the integrated GPU in the CPU is such that if that goes out it's likely the whole CPU is gone bad.

    3) See 2.

    4) Usually. But in BIOS there may be an option to just use the dedicated GPU and not the one built-in the CPU. In my BIOS such an option exists and I turn off the integrated GPU so that I have no issues and all games and whatnot operate on my dedicated GPU, a RTX 3060.

    5) Maybe. Depends if you permanently disabled the integrated GPU in BIOS or not. But if you have a minor hiccup or whatever, the system more than likely will not go to the integrated GPU in the CPU. To Windows, the dedicated GPU is still there in the PCI-e bus and just won't auto transfer over to the CPU's integrated GPU unless the bus is competently dead. Even then, an IRQ may still register in BIOS/Windows and the dead card will still take precedence until you remove it. Then the integrated GPU in the CPU will take over.

    6) According to Passmark, the 5700G is the fastest. Which makes sense becuse it has 8 threads versus the other with only 6 threads.

    7) Yes, but it's highly unlikely that will occur. CPUs don't typically bite the dust. They can, but it's often something else in a computer like the RAM or motherboard or PSU or GPU, etc.

    8) Maybe, but I have my doubts since the integrated GPU is just that, it's integrated. The CPU will probably need to be replaced. But again, it's pretty unlikely that should occur. Possible, but not something I'd worry too much about.

    9) Not all the time. May have to be switched in BIOS or the GPU's control panel in Windows.

    10) Yes, it is easier. It's just a card that goes in the PCI-e slot. Then in most cases (not all) you connect the power cable/s to the GPU from the PSU. See YouTube and whatnot for tutorials on how to install a GPU/graphics card.

    11) All three of those PSUs look reputable. Though, I'm not on the up and up on PSU technology so hard to say. I chose Antec myself. If I had to chose from the three, my personal preference would be the Corsair. Number two would be Seasonic simply due to being in the industry for years and years.
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  3. Posts : 295
    Windows 10 Pro
       #3

    Read your motherboard manual. Should be jam packed full of information. You can download any one on the Internet from a computer motherboard manufacture.

    Pull out your favorite search engine and learn how to install components and whatnot. YouTube would be a great resource for video tutorials. (Also a great place for car repair)...
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  4. Posts : 337
    Windows 10 Home 64 bit x64 Version 22H2
    Thread Starter
       #4

    [AMD ryzen 5700g without graphics card] vs [5600x with a graphics card] can they support dual and triple monitors?
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  5. Posts : 305
    Win 10 and 11
       #5

    The 5700G will support dual monitors - we do it at work. I don't think there are enough connectors on the motherboard to run three monitors. For that you would need a discrete graphics card.
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  6. Posts : 337
    Windows 10 Home 64 bit x64 Version 22H2
    Thread Starter
       #6

    If I want dual monitors, can I connect 1 monitor to integrated graphics and 1 monitor to dedicated graphics card?

    If I want triple monitors, can I connect 1 monitor to integrated graphics and 2 monitors to dedicated graphics card?
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  7. Posts : 295
    Windows 10 Pro
       #7

    F22 Simpilot said:
    6) According to Passmark, the 5700G is the fastest. Which makes sense because it has 8 threads versus the other with only 6 threads.
    I just want to correct myself here.

    The 5700G has 8 cores, 16 threads. The 5600X has 6 cores, 12 threads.
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  8. Posts : 295
    Windows 10 Pro
       #8

    comcom said:
    If I want dual monitors, can I connect 1 monitor to integrated graphics and 1 monitor to dedicated graphics card?

    If I want triple monitors, can I connect 1 monitor to integrated graphics and 2 monitors to dedicated graphics card?
    Looks like it may be possible. How to force a specific monitor to use the NVIDIA graphics card - Quora
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  9. Posts : 337
    Windows 10 Home 64 bit x64 Version 22H2
    Thread Starter
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    F22 Simpilot said:
    4) Usually. But in BIOS there may be an option to just use the dedicated GPU and not the one built-in the CPU. In my BIOS such an option exists and I turn off the integrated GPU so that I have no issues and all games and whatnot operate on my dedicated GPU, a RTX 3060.

    7) Yes, but it's highly unlikely that will occur. CPUs don't typically bite the dust. They can, but it's often something else in a computer like the RAM or motherboard or PSU or GPU, etc.
    A) In your BIOS if you did not turn off the integrated GPU, if your monitor cable is connected to dedicated GPU and no monitor cable is connected to integrated GPU, does the pc automatically uses dedicated GPU only and ignore integrated GPU?

    B) In your BIOS if you turn off the integrated GPU, in the future if your dedicated GPU is faulty, during dedicated GPU is faulty the screen is black, how do you turn on integrated GPU to continue work or troubleshoot?

    C) Just curious why is integrated GPU so durable but a dedicated GPU become faulty often? Dedicated GPU is bigger size has 2 fans but why not durable? I am assuming the integrated GPU will be hotter than a dedicated GPU because integrated GPU is small square size and has to share space with CPU and only 1 fan.
    Last edited by comcom; 26 Jan 2024 at 08:50.
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  10. Posts : 1,211
    Windows 10
       #10

    Little bit lengthy because you are asking one question over several. Two scenarios basically that can happen and you turn that around what ever way applies towards how your computer is setup.

    1
    if the primary GPU dies for what ever reason then there will be no display, so if the iGPU fails and its the only GPU then the computer will black screen on boot with no display output and the monitor will timeout.

    2
    if you have a dedicated GPU card and that fails the computer will fall back to the iGPU if the CPU has one but the computer will have to reboot to do so and you would have to remove the GPU card because the computer will potentially error at post because it can detect a faulty part.

    In scenario 2 you will get image to the screen because the iGPU is still functional. The bios knows so if you had a addon GPU card and it failed next time you boot the computer the bios will change to iGPU because it knows that its the only display output. Well basically it will try to display regardless because it needs to display an image to the user. Failing all that then you would need to cmoss reset to defaults.
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