Graphics card with HDMI input

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  1. Posts : 2,210
    Windows 11 Pro 64-bit v23H2
       #21

    kitpzyxmsir said:
    How did you accomplish that?

    MisterEd said:
    Electrically DVI and HDMI are the same for video. All the adapter has to do wire up each end differently. The only real difference is that DVI doesn't support audio while HDMI does. That means if the monitor or TV you connect has speakers then to use them you would have to run a separate audio cable from the computer.
    All I did was replace the HDMI with the DVI. TV/monitor has speakers. Audio works. No separate audio cable.

    Did I miss something that will cause a problem elsewhere with some part of the operation?
    What DVI-D to HDMI adapter are you using. It can't be anything standard because Standard DVI-D has absolutely no audio capability.

    I have several computers connected with DVI cables. One of them is connected to a monitor (with an internal speaker) using a DVI to HDMI cable. All of them have to have separate audio cables.

    The following reference explains it...

    While almost no modern electronics include DVI ports, they were once the standard for older units. So, when trying to connect your HDMI-compatible TV to your old source device, you quickly realize that you’ll need a DVI to HDMI converter.

    However, since DVI does not support audio, you’re unsure of how you’re going to hear your content/games.

    Is there a way to get audio with a DVI to HDMI converter? Yes, there is.

    However, you will need additional audio cables to transmit your source device’s audio to your TV.
    How To Get Audio With a DVI-To-HDMI Converter?
    How To Get Audio With a DVI'-'To'-'HDMI Converter? '-' Pointer Clicker
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  2. Posts : 979
    Microsoft Windows 10 Professional (x64) Build 19045.2846
    Thread Starter
       #22

    MisterEd said:
    What DVI-D to HDMI adapter are you using. It can't be anything standard because Standard DVI-D has absolutely no audio capability
    It was among my collection of electronics junk, from my old computer/monitor combo. Easily over ten years old.

    I'd like to identify it, if possible?

    Graphics card with HDMI input-dvi.jpg

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    SIW2 said:
    With needlenose pliers, how else? took the mobo out of the case, and squeezed the top and bottom of the hdmi port together a tiny bit
    I asked because from what I observed, I figured removing the mobo was the only way to even attempt that, and I thought you would have mentioned it.

    Removing the mobo, well, that's a bit ambitious for me. Not to mention. if the squeezing messes up the port, what do you do then?

    Anyhow, I"m glad it worked for you.
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  3. Posts : 4,634
    several
       #23

    if the squeezing messes up the port, what do you do then?
    I dont know how anybody could "mess it up" . I squeezed it in a bit too much at one point, so then put the pliers inside to push it out a bit and so on. Took a few mins to get it just right. Wasn't difficult.

    It is more time and effort getting the mobo in and out of the case than it takes actually fixing the port.

    I just realised I have a couple of these, not sure why

    DisplayPort to DVI Adapter - DP to DVI-D - DisplayPort & Mini DisplayPort Adapters | StarTech.com United Kingdom
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  4. Posts : 1,252
    Windows 10
       #24

    What SIW2 is saying essentially is that the HDMI port might not actually be faulty as you are mentioning that it does not sit flush and that it also sounds like it might not be making a tight connection.

    Take a photo of the HDMI port with nothing plugged into it. We also cannot tell what DVI that is we need to see the actual connector, no DVI takes audio anyway like others have mentioned it has the ability to carry that data but it does not know what to do with it, we never got that ability until HDMI iirc.

    I have had a HDMI port that had a non flush fit before so you have to work with it like SWi2 suggested so that it will work properly, if it is not making a full seated plug then it might be intermittent like in your case as it needs to be plugged in all the way.

    they "crimped" the outer case so you cannot really damage this unless you crimp it to far but you could just pry it back open its only an outer sleeve and not as detrimental the important part to not break is the tab on the inside of the connector.

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    You also have a back plate which can interfere with connectors given the right context like if the back plate is not installed correctly. Hard to say but it can happen.
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  5. Posts : 979
    Microsoft Windows 10 Professional (x64) Build 19045.2846
    Thread Starter
       #25

    Malneb said:
    What SIW2 is saying essentially is that the HDMI port might not actually be faulty as you are mentioning that it does not sit flush and that it also sounds like it might not be making a tight connection
    I never said it was faulty, nor that it does not sit flush. When it is properly in place, it is flush.

    However, I must very careful, if, for whatever reason the box is moved, or the cable is inadvertently touched, i.e. if I'm plugging a USB drive in to the USB port next to the HDMI port, that move or touch may ever so sightly dislodge it enough to break the connection. Simply pushing it back in place, or unplugging and replugging it, usually re-engages the connection. But I can't risk that eventually it may become unusable.

    Malneb said:
    no DVI takes audio anyway like others have mentioned
    Forgive me, but I'm a novice. Please clarify what you mean by "no DVI takes audio anyway". All I know is that the moment I plugged the DVI in, it worked the same as the HDMI, video and audio.
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  6. Posts : 1,252
    Windows 10
       #26

    kitpzyxmsir said:
    My HDMI port is problematic to the extent that if the cable is not absolutely flush,
    ??

    if the cable is not flush then its easy to assume that this is the problem if you work out why its not sitting flush then you will probably solve your issue otherwise the thread is kind of redundant and you can use the DVI connector.
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  7. Posts : 2,210
    Windows 11 Pro 64-bit v23H2
       #27

    kitpzyxmsir said:
    I never said it was faulty, nor that it does not sit flush. When it is properly in place, it is flush.

    However, I must very careful, if, for whatever reason the box is moved, or the cable is inadvertently touched, i.e. if I'm plugging a USB drive in to the USB port next to the HDMI port, that move or touch may ever so sightly dislodge it enough to break the connection. Simply pushing it back in place, or unplugging and replugging it, usually re-engages the connection. But I can't risk that eventually it may become unusable.

    Forgive me, but I'm a novice. Please clarify what you mean by "no DVI takes audio anyway". All I know is that the moment I plugged the DVI in, it worked the same as the HDMI, video and audio.
    Here is the pinout for a DVI connector. At the bottom is shown the HDMI and DVI conenctors on your computer.
    Maybe I'm missing something here. Which pin(s) have audio? I can't find any.

    Graphics card with HDMI input-2023-04-17-17_49_33-document1-word.jpg
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  8. Posts : 979
    Microsoft Windows 10 Professional (x64) Build 19045.2846
    Thread Starter
       #28

    MisterEd said:
    Here is the pinout for a DVI connector. At the bottom is shown the HDMI and DVI conenctors on your computer.
    Maybe I'm missing something here. Which pin(s) have audio? I can't find any
    I understand. Here's what they look like

    Graphics card with HDMI input-plug.jpg

    Graphics card with HDMI input-plug2.jpg

    But, I have audio. No other means, audio cable, etc., of conveying audio, if that is what we are talking about. The only other thing back there is a cat 6 cable. The DVI goes to the TV, and that's it.
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  9. Posts : 2,210
    Windows 11 Pro 64-bit v23H2
       #29

    Do you have an DVI to HDMI adapter anything like this? This adapter uses a USB cable to add audio.

    Graphics card with HDMI input-2023-04-17-19_17_17-dvi-hdmi-adapter-usb-power-audio-hdmi-dvi-display-adapters-_-star.jpg

    DVI to HDMI Video Adapter with USB Power and Audio - 1080p
    DVI to HDMI Adapter - USB Power & Audio - HDMI & DVI Display Adapters | StarTech.com
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  10. Posts : 1
    Win 10 Pro
       #30

    Microsoft Windows 10 Professional (x64) Build 19045.2846
    Don't want to deter anyone from trying to fix this with pliers but thought I should mention that today my system was updated to the OP's build (19045.2846) and as soon as I rebooted I was greeted by a "no HDMI connection" message. Checked the physical suspects etc. but only a reboot from yesterday's pre-update backup of the system volume worked for me.
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