MSI Afterburner doesn't affect GPU

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  1. Posts : 523
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    MSI Afterburner doesn't affect GPU


    I'm not sure if it's conflicting with the radeon software but MSI Afterburner tweaks do not seem to stick. I set the fan speed to max and apply. It goes back to Auto.

    I do not agree with the fan curve on the 6900xt and I can alter it to my liking within Radeon Software but it resets itself every reboot. Not sure how I can fix that, and this thing gets pretty warm.
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    gettheclicker said:
    I'm not sure if it's conflicting with the radeon software but MSI Afterburner tweaks do not seem to stick. I set the fan speed to max and apply. It goes back to Auto.

    I do not agree with the fan curve on the 6900xt and I can alter it to my liking within Radeon Software but it resets itself every reboot. Not sure how I can fix that, and this thing gets pretty warm.


    I use EVGA Precision and before that I used Riva Tuner.
    I believe you have to set MSI Afterburner to "Apply settings at startup" to have them... "stick".

    You have to do that with EVGA Precision and with Riva Tuner (which both programs are based on).





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  3. Posts : 523
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    Nope, still nothing with MSI afterburner. Literally nothing works from that app on this card. It's on the latest version too.

    Radeon Software doesn't seem to have an option I can find to load my preferred settings on startup.

    I will try EVGA Precision.
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    gettheclicker said:
    Nope, still nothing with MSI afterburner. Literally nothing works from that app on this card. It's on the latest version too.

    Radeon Software doesn't seem to have an option I can find to load my preferred settings on startup.

    I will try EVGA Precision.



    NO !!!!

    EVGA Precision is for EVGA Nvidia cards.


    The option to Apply Settings at Startup is in MSI Afterburner.
    When you change settings in MSI Afterburner, you need to click APPLY, and you need to click on Apply settings at Startup.
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  5. Posts : 523
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    I know where the startup setting is in Afterburner, still does nothing. I'm pretty sure the radeon software is overriding everything.

    I didn't try Precision, I had a moment then realized wait, it's an AMD card.
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    gettheclicker said:
    I know where the startup setting is in Afterburner, still does nothing. I'm pretty sure the radeon software is overriding everything.

    I didn't try Precision, I had a moment then realized wait, it's an AMD card.


    It's possible the Radeon software is conflicting. That's a relatively NEW vid card, it may take MSI a bit of time to deal with that.
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  7. Posts : 16
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    The problem is probably several things. Start by resetting it all to default, especially if you installed software and left stuff tweeked.

    Windows and your browser have super powers over resources. And Nvidia control panel should have spot where you can allow specific processes (games for example) to use whatever settings their configured to use for optimization. Gsync and such are examples of overriding your settings .

    Nvidia driver updates always screwed up my 1060 and i found most updates would do that so if you can, find the original , also
    Look at windows power settings. It has the ability to override your graphics and turn hardware on and off in situations where u don't want it

    Find the README.txt file that comes with any programs you used. I remember no reading after Msi one crippled my EVGA card (precision uses the SAME API ) so it ultimately shouldn't matter which u used, but i definitely remember MSI readme saying they took away ability to OC from certain Version # onward, but u can check yourself ..

    They're doing directly or indirectly by putting more strict permissions standards for the average user... this to mitigate the"vulnerabilities" they keep finding in pretty much every processor sold in every device with a microcchip with few exceptions. You can research Spectre Meltdown mitigations or the Nvidia ones related to Remote GFX graphics exploit haxors been using. Also to limit the control by other programs such as the OC ones you're relying on.

    Funny thing is Nvidia has , or had irrc the same ability to OC and control fans but since that's low level "kernel Mode" stuff, they kinda made accessing that a bitch too.

    Good luck. Try older versions. Newer stuff never works for me. Check hardware manager too with admin privileges, goto ^view-> all devices-> look for greyed out device or exclamation points or anything saying driver problem.
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    gettheclicker said:
    I'm not sure if it's conflicting with the radeon software but MSI Afterburner tweaks do not seem to stick. I set the fan speed to max and apply. It goes back to Auto.

    I do not agree with the fan curve on the 6900xt and I can alter it to my liking within Radeon Software but it resets itself every reboot. Not sure how I can fix that, and this thing gets pretty warm.
    I just researched that line of cards , it has new multiple heat sensors and a vbios that manage to dynamically control the frequency verses heat so the card will not bust , Afterburner has nothing of that incorporated to deal with that line of cards and probably will not any time soon as it requires tackling into its vbios .

    Apparently this card likes to apply its own OC strategies that has fail safes , but leaves doors for manual over-riding too but via its own app , There are certain means to safely OC it in ways probably more efficient than Afterburner can , for example "Rage Mode" , you can read about it and other means here :
    Radeon RX 6900 XT Review: AMD's Most Powerful Gaming GPU Ever - Page 4 | HotHardware

    If the intention however is to lower the card heat signature for stability and longer life I suggest you start a ticket with AMD as maybe they would come up with a vbios update or more profiles in later driver releases as a consideration of your point of view , but bare in mind they may actually attempt to slow down frequency to lower heat than raise fan speed for prolonged times as an option as they probably wouldn't want to cause their fans to bust where the card would follow in few seconds after which would render that line of cards a catastrophe .

    I do not even think they would consider a support request where you ask for your OC settings to stick as apparently it is deliberate that they don't in case new settings crashed the system , its persistence to remain may drive the system into an infinite boot loop .

    You can still try to request that as a feature in a support ticket and see if they can come up with something in between some day .
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  9. Posts : 523
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    I have no plans to go beyond the safe zones of the card. My goal is to keep it in Rage Mode but with higher fan speeds. I mean it gets to 81c on a couple maxed out games with the fans not even spinning at 50%. The damn thing could catch fire and the fans would still be like, "This is fine."
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  10. Posts : 23,407
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    gettheclicker said:
    I have no plans to go beyond the safe zones of the card. My goal is to keep it in Rage Mode but with higher fan speeds. I mean it gets to 81c on a couple maxed out games with the fans not even spinning at 50%. The damn thing could catch fire and the fans would still be like, "This is fine."

    These newer vid cards from AMD and Nvidia have a higher temperature range, than their older cards did.
    They may already have a fan curve that can deal with those kinds of temps.

    Might want to check what they do under 100% load.


    Say, the Furmark program... FurMark > Home


    Just make sure you know how to "Cancel" or Stop the Furmark program, in case your card actually IS faulty.




    /edit

    Might also want to check what fan speed adjusting program the manufacturer of you 6900 XT has.
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