GTX1660Ti or GTX1660 SUPER

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  1. Posts : 137
    Win10 Pro 21H1
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    GTX1660Ti or GTX1660 SUPER


    Hi

    I am in the process of sorting out a suitable upgrade for my husband who likes playing the Trainz simulator program (currently he is on the latest version). So far I've sorted out what CPU to get as well as the mobo and memory. However, the graphic card although meeting the recommended (as opposed to the minimum) system requirement, I would like to upgrade it to an even better one. Suffice to say we are NOT in a position to upgrade to one of the Nvidia 20 series cards.

    Currently he has a GTX1050Ti and I'm thinking its a toss up between the GTX1660 SUPER and the GTX1660Ti. I've been searching the web for info on the GTX1660 SUPER and have read some very good reports about it. But - is it worth the extra £40 to £50 to get a GTX1660Ti as I get the feeling the Ti isn't a great deal better than the SUPER.

    I'd appreciate any comments on the relative benefits of both cards as well as the disadvantages. I should also add that he has no interest in overclocking so whatever system I build for him will be run at its default status.

    Tracey
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  2. Posts : 151
    Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit
       #2

    Interesting thread.
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  3. Posts : 1,561
    Windows 10 Home 20H2 64-bit
       #3

    Hey Tracey These two cards are very close to each other:

    GTX 1660 Ti GTX 1660 Super
    Base / Boost clock: 1500 / 1770 MHz Base / Boost clock: 1530 / 1785 MHz
    Memory: 6 GB GDDR6 - 12 Gbps 192-bit / 288 GB/s Memory: 6 GB GDDR6 - 14 Gbps 192-bit / 336 GB/s
    CUDA Cores: 1536 CUDA Cores: 1408
    TU116-400 Turing die TU116-300 Turing die
    TFLOPS: 5.4 FP32 TFLOPS: 5.0 FP32

    My advice to you would be dependent exclusively on price and your budget. The 1660 Ti is kind of close to the RTX 2060 in price - at least where I'm looking - and in my honest opinion not worth the extra £50 for an average of 2-7% performance bump over to the 1660 Super. They are basically the same card, but with the Ti you get more CUDA cores, hence the slighly better performance, that's about it.
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  4. Posts : 7,257
    Windows 10 Pro 64-bit
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    It also depends on whether the games he plays support RTX, otherwise its a waste.
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  5. Posts : 137
    Win10 Pro 21H1
    Thread Starter
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    Hi

    Thanks for your replies. I've pretty much settled on a SUPER but really wanted any info in case there was something I've missed as I'm a newbie when it comes to gaming PCs. Been building our PCs for years but only really needed standard desktops but now my husband has really taken to playing the Trainz simulator and I hate to see him struggling to get things going properly.

    Incidentally swarfega, what the heck is RTX - it means nothing to me!

    Anyway thanks again for your replies. They've been useful. Can't go any further yet though as I've found that his water cooling probably won't be man enough so I've got that to sort out before I can go any further.

    Tracey
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  6. Posts : 151
    Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit
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    TraceyW said:
    Hi

    Thanks for your replies. I've pretty much settled on a SUPER but really wanted any info in case there was something I've missed as I'm a newbie when it comes to gaming PCs. Been building our PCs for years but only really needed standard desktops but now my husband has really taken to playing the Trainz simulator and I hate to see him struggling to get things going properly.

    Incidentally swarfega, what the heck is RTX - it means nothing to me!

    Anyway thanks again for your replies. They've been useful. Can't go any further yet though as I've found that his water cooling probably won't be man enough so I've got that to sort out before I can go any further.

    Tracey
    The latest line of nVidia graphics cards start with the letters RTX, not GTX. RTX cards support "real-time ray tracing".

    I have done a quick search of the latest "Trainz" game, Trainz Railroad Simulator 2019. I have not seen that it does have ray tracing option, but, I only looked for maybe 20 seconds.
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  7. Posts : 1,561
    Windows 10 Home 20H2 64-bit
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    Neither the 1660 Ti nor the 1660 Super are RTX-capable, you have to be on an RTX (not GTX) graphics card to have support for it. RTX is Nvidia's rendering platform for real time ray tracing. Microsoft's is called DXR. It means that it supports hardware accelerated ray tracing in compatible games through RT cores. Ray tracing is a completely new way of rendering light, as opposed to rasterization. It's a bit complicated to explain how it actually works, I'm not that good explaining either , - but basically it can trace light through pixels on an object or environment instead of it being created with a mesh of polygons like before. The light that's being traced from a source are literally there in the world, like the CGI in a Pixar movie. It's very performance-heavy to enable because of all the information it can work with in real-time depending on the game and what technique it's using. That's why it needs extra cores to run properly. More cores and faster Gigarays/s means better performance when enabling ray tracing.

    This is the list of compatible games for it right now:
    • Minecraft
    • Battlefield V
    • Call of Duty: Modern Warfare (2019)
    • Control
    • Deliver Us The Moon
    • Mechwarrior V: Mercenaries
    • Metro Exodus
    • Quake II RTX
    • Shadow of the Tomb Raider
    • Stay in the Light
    • Wolfenstein: Youngblood
    • Amid Evil
    • Bright Memory


    I think Minecraft is a good example of how it can look:
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  8. Posts : 920
    Windows 10 Pro
       #8

    Since you are in the UK you could use kitguru.net, a UK based hardware rating site to see reviews of both the 1660 Super and Ti, the reviews are fairly comprehensive and also gives links for best price available at date of testing. Another resource would be PC Gamer, although after reading the reviews it is wise to read the user comments as PC Gamer gets kickbacks on certain products bought from certain retailers.
    On a side note, it is interesting that Minecraft RTX when first tested bought an RTX2080Ti to its knees. Other games fair a bit better as not all games implement DXR the same way. It is really a technology very much in it's infancy as far as software support goes.
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  9. Posts : 18,262
    Win 10 Home 10.0.19045.1806 (x64) [22H2]
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    I've always used AnandTech to compare various hardware items. Here is a comparison of the 1660 super and the 1660 Ti...

    GPU 2019 Benchmarks - Compare Products on AnandTech
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  10. Posts : 137
    Win10 Pro 21H1
    Thread Starter
       #10

    Hi All

    Again, thanks for all your replies. I've made up my mind on the graphics cards now and I'll go for the SUPER. Between you all you've helped greatly in my decision and I greatly appreciate that. Thanks very much. At least I'm now aware of what RTX is even if it doesn't really mean too much to me.

    Tracey
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