Intel HD3000 on Windows 10 Home 1809 and upper BUG


  1. Posts : 23
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    Intel HD3000 on Windows 10 Home 1809 and upper BUG


    Hi people! I have two old laptops with both Intel HD3000 graphics and Nvidia graphics. One from ASUS and one from Samsung, both with i7 CPUs (2860qm and 2630qm).

    Both are hooked up to two TVs via HDMI at 1080p. The video adapter for the output that the system forces me to use is the HD3000.

    Alright everything is fine, I'm able to run my stuff with the "discreet" Nvidia GPU anyway thru the cable on the TV (checked with the tool provided by Nvidia).

    Now comes the problem. After update 1803 I found out that the installed drivers were from 2016, version 9.17.10.4459. Where is the issue? With the 1809 update and further updates the HDMI output is messed up. With the lid closed there is no 1080p output no matter what I try. I just can duplicate the screen at the native notebook resolution. Pretty cr*ppy.

    The solution I found is to install the 2015 version 9.17.10.4229. By disabling the auto driver update I thought that I would have been fine. NO, I was damn wrong because with the 1909 update I got the drivers overwritten.

    You might argue that I can wipe and reinstall these drivers anytime Windows updates itself.

    Well, on the Samsung notebook I'm able to do such a thing. The ASUS notebook will soon become an SFF pc with no native screen attached, so, no chances to perform the trick anymore.

    What am I kindly asking for? :)

    A way to prevent Windows 10 from ovewriting the 2015 drivers FOREVER. I can recall that on my girlfriend's notebook I have installed the modded intel drivers by the great @nIGHTmAYOR (thanks again and again, mate) and he said that he modded them with an incredibly high number version so that Windows will theoretically never be able to overwrite them.

    The other option would be to COMPLETELY kill the Windows update feature, but I have googled something and nothing seem to do the trick. I still have to try WAU manager.

    Note that the intel graphics is used only for HDMI output and some other basic stuff. Old games and emulators are running with the Nvidia GPUs (damn Nvidia optimus, it was a pain to set up with Dolphin and Emulationstation -.-")

    I'm in your hands :)
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  2. Posts : 6,971
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    Why are you running such an old version which will be getting no support soon?
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  3. Posts : 23
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    Samuria said:
    Why are you running such an old version which will be getting no support soon?
    I'm running Windows 10 1909 because 2004 is still not found by Windows update. Anyway, I don't care about my Windows version getting old. These laptops will serve as media centers. I just want my drivers to keep working as they should since MS effed 'em up after update 1809.
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    Try this possibly,

    Make a Win10 repair disc,

    Load up and select 'Load Drivers'

    Reinstall the chipset or pci, but make sure when you open the file at the bottom right, you select the 'open as read only'
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    Brand said:
    I'm running Windows 10 1909 because 2004 is still not found by Windows update. Anyway, I don't care about my Windows version getting old. These laptops will serve as media centers. I just want my drivers to keep working as they should since MS effed 'em up after update 1809.
    Like I posted on my custom driver thread seems Microsoft was alerted by altering driver version number and managed to over-ride my driver in its latest build (2004) suggesting they keep monitoring our approaches to make life easier and block it .

    So basically until I find a better idea , here are few things to try :

    1 - If new drivers break your display and extended display is your only display try to boot into Safe Mode , usually Safe Mode operates by "Basic Display Driver" and still manage to output VGA / HDMI signals as "Clone" display , booting to safe Mode in absence of Desktop might be achievable through hard rebooting/resetting of Windows while loading 3~5 times where then the recovery/repair boot menu may appear where logging to Safe Mode becomes an option , while in Safe Mode you might be able to reinstall the right driver or at least delete the broken one forcing Windows to revert to Basic Display on loading normally for you to be able to intervene

    2 - Some Bioses have the option to turn off internal displays or change the priority to external one , you may need to have that one checked always

    3 - Try to boot while holding Shift Key hopping that the problem is driver services / containers and not exactly the driver , usually booting while holding Shift Key suppresses these services from loading

    P.S Try these methods now while you have the upper hand , see what works for you , I have been faced by an attempt to be forcefully updated from windows 1809 to windows 1909 few weeks ago with no mean to stop it but unplugging from internet , apparently Microsoft do not negotiate well when they believe its time to update so be prepared .
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  6. Posts : 23
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    nIGHTmAYOR said:
    Like I posted on my custom driver thread seems Microsoft was alerted by altering driver version number and managed to over-ride my driver in its latest build (2004) suggesting they keep monitoring our approaches to make life easier and block it .

    So basically until I find a better idea , here are few things to try :

    1 - If new drivers break your display and extended display is your only display try to boot into Safe Mode , usually Safe Mode operates by "Basic Display Driver" and still manage to output VGA / HDMI signals as "Clone" display , booting to safe Mode in absence of Desktop might be achievable through hard rebooting/resetting of Windows while loading 3~5 times where then the recovery/repair boot menu may appear where logging to Safe Mode becomes an option , while in Safe Mode you might be able to reinstall the right driver or at least delete the broken one forcing Windows to revert to Basic Display on loading normally for you to be able to intervene

    2 - Some Bioses have the option to turn off internal displays or change the priority to external one , you may need to have that one checked always

    3 - Try to boot while holding Shift Key hopping that the problem is driver services / containers and not exactly the driver , usually booting while holding Shift Key suppresses these services from loading

    P.S Try these methods now while you have the upper hand , see what works for you , I have been faced by an attempt to be forcefully updated from windows 1809 to windows 1909 few weeks ago with no mean to stop it but unplugging from internet , apparently Microsoft do not negotiate well when they believe its time to update so be prepared .
    I have found that the update 2004 overwrites the 2015 drivers with the 2016 version on both laptops. Same went for 1909, apparently. No way to block a major windows update forever and this is a total bummer.

    Anyway, at the moment I have discovered that if I reboot into safe mode and uninstall the 2016 drivers and reboot again, it automatically loads the 2015 version. That is already something.

    There's no way to disable the intel HD3000 to my knowledge, via bios

    Update 2004 is said to be bringing a better option that lets the user choose what to update more in detail. I still cannot find it.
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    Brand said:
    I have found that the update 2004 overwrites the 2015 drivers with the 2016 version on both laptops. Same went for 1909, apparently. No way to block a major windows update forever and this is a total bummer.

    Anyway, at the moment I have discovered that if I reboot into safe mode and uninstall the 2016 drivers and reboot again, it automatically loads the 2015 version. That is already something.

    There's no way to disable the intel HD3000 to my knowledge, via bios

    Update 2004 is said to be bringing a better option that lets the user choose what to update more in detail. I still cannot find it.
    Well at least the safe mode trick worked , so you have a backup plan .

    Basically Microsoft was skeptical with this update due to all circumstances surrounding it so it made sure all drivers are forcefully updated so nothing backfires , hopefully later updates are more reasonable .
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  8. Posts : 23
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    nIGHTmAYOR said:
    Well at least the safe mode trick worked , so you have a backup plan .

    Basically Microsoft was skeptical with this update due to all circumstances surrounding it so it made sure all drivers are forcefully updated so nothing backfires , hopefully later updates are more reasonable .
    Yup. I really do hope we will be able to better manage what to update and what not. Be the OS or the drivers. It should be a user's choice.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Alright, it seems that update 2004 fixed the HDMI output issue I had with the intel HD3000 drivers. I really do hope that this situation will last.

    To prevent any future issue I would love to be able to completely kill that damn windows update. There's no point to update an OS that is only used for retrogaming and video streaming :)
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  9. Posts : 504
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    Ive done this before,

    Only search CD Rom for Windows Updates and remove Network and URL.

    Install Windows or driver from that particular CD Rom with the letter H say. After that then adjust one Group Policy setting which remembers and secures the original driver search location and wont sway from it.

    Now goto disk management and change drive letter of said CD Rom. Uninstall nasty driver and upon reboot Windows will persistently ask for that same location from CD Rom and the piece of garbage cant install.

    Sorry if youve already tried this

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