Cannot make screen scale smaller....below 100% or 96 DPI.


  1. Posts : 36
    Windows 10 Pro
       #1

    Cannot make screen scale smaller....below 100% or 96 DPI.


    I have just purchased a used 32" Samsung monitor. Upgraded from 22" Acer monitor. The reason I got a larger monitor is because I wanted to fit more windows on the larger surface area. However, I can actually fit less windows on the larger monitor because the minimum default magnification makes everything prohibitively large. I cannot find a way to shrink the magnification level below 100%.

    The highest possible screen resolution is 1360 x 768 for the monitor, and windows 10 display settings will not let me "change the size of text, apps, and other items" below 100%. Also, the windows magnifier tool works great for making everything larger, but it will not let me make everything smaller.

    I have tried this registry hack (Change DPI Scaling Level for Displays in Windows 10) to change the DPI scaling level to a lower value. It will make everything larger if I set the value above 96, but if I go below 96, it does not work for making the screen smaller. Changing the zoom using CTRL and scroll will make icons and browser pages smaller than 100%, but it does not change the actual desktop size. I need the desktop size to be smaller, not just the icons and browser windows.

    I have never had this situation before with previous versions of windows. I could always make my desktop as small or large as I needed.

    How can I shrink everything below 100%, or 96 DPI so I can fit more things on the screen? I have looked at 3rd party magnifiers and screen resolution modifiers but cannot find one that will shrink the screen any smaller than windows defaults.

    Thanks in advance for your assistance.

    Windows 10 Pro Version 20H2
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  2. Posts : 4,201
    Windows 10 Pro x64 Latest RP
       #2

    I cannot see any way to achieve what you are trying to do, the issue is that you only have 1360 pixels horizontally and 768 pixels vertically these 1,044,480 pixels are a fixed size and so you cannot reduce the pixel size to make screen items take up less space - It may be possible to do the opposite by reducing the resolution but this would use four pixels to display a single present pixel which would increase the size of items on screen, but would degrade the sharpness of the image
    Last edited by Barman58; 12 Mar 2022 at 11:31.
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  3. Posts : 36
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Thanks for reply. If I can't find a solution, this monitor will have a new home rather quickly.

    Measuring with a tape, the above two sentences are 14" long by 1/4" high, and the width of the entire monitor is 27 1/2". Stuff is freaking huge!

    Do you (or anybody) know if there is there such a thing as a magnifier program that will magnify the full screen in reverse, below 100%? Easy to find programs that will magnify above 100%, but nothing that will shrink.
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  4. Posts : 4,201
    Windows 10 Pro x64 Latest RP
       #4

    As the image you see is made up of a number of fixed size pixels there is no way to make those pixels smaller, there is a workaround to do the opposite, make the pixel appear larger as I stated above, by displaying each original pixel across a 2 x 2 Pixel area.

    I have a 32" monitor in front of me now, but that is a 4K 3840 x 2160 resolution and I can switch to FHD which provides larger object & Text size but it is a physical impossibility to go the other way The panel you describe is the resolution used for 13-15" laptops from five or more years ago - this is the first time I have actually heard of a 32" monitor with this low a resolution the lowest I have seen is the Standard 1920 x 1080 FHD

    The only other thing that could cause the issue is if your graphics card is limited to only display at 1360 x 768, which I have seen with a laptop that uses this resolution for it's built-in screen - Check your source device to see if you can increase the output size
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  5. Posts : 36
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #5

    This is a 10yo Samsung monitor for distribution in Thailand.

    I am not very familiar with the technical details on monitors. I know that more pixels will provide a sharper image, but I didn't realize that the pixel number would determine the minimum size of the items on the screen.

    So with the 32" 4K monitor at 3840 x 2160, would I be able to shrink the desktop to approximately 1/3 the size of my 1360 x 768?
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  6. Posts : 23,014
    Win 10 Home ♦♦♦19045.4239 (x64) [22H2]
       #6

    Samsung LA-32C450 Multi System LCD TV Specifications:
    Designs and specifications are subject to change without notice.
    Video Features

    Video Signal System: NTSC, PAL, Secam
    Display Resolution: 1366 x 768
    Native Resolution: 1080i, 720p
    Full Digital Image Processor
    50,000:1 Contrast Ratio
    10-bit processor with 12.8 billion colors
    15 degree swivel stand
    8ms Response Time
    Wide Viewing Angle 178 degrees
    Brightness 500cd/m2
    3D Y/C Comb Filter
    3:2 Pulldown technology
    PIP (for Freeze Function)
    Vertical Frequency (Hz): 56 / 60 / 72 / 73 / 75
    Contrast Ratio: TBD
    Horizontal Scan (KHz) for PC: 31/ 31.5 / 35.2 / 32.9 / 46.9 / 47.4 / 47.7 / 47.8 / 56.5 / 60 / 60.3
    Overscan: Normal, +1, +2
    Viewing Angle: Right/Left: 170°, Up/Down: 170°
    Display Response Time: TBD
    Vertical Size: +10 to -10 (TV) +50 to -50 (PC)
    Vertical Center: +10 and -10 (Zoom) +10 and -10 (Wide Zoom)
    Horizontal Center: +10 to -10 (TV) +50 to -50 (PC)
    Screen or Display Technology: LCD
    Tuner: Analog
    Video Processing: One-chip Video Processor
    Color Temperature: Cool, Neutral, Warm
    Noise Reduction
    Screen Modes (4:3): Wide Zoom, Normal, Full, Zoom
    Screen Modes (16:9): Wide Zoom, Normal, Full, Zoom, Off
    Wide Mode (16:9): Wide Zoom, Full, Zoom
    Wide Mode (4:3): Wide Zoom, Normal, Full, Zoom
    Comb Filter: 3D Digital Comb Filter
    Phase (PC Only)
    Pitch (PC Only)
    Light Sensor
    Picture Modes: Vivid, Standard, Pro


    Inputs and Outputs

    HDMI input X 3
    PC Input x 1
    Component X 2 (Y/Pb/Pr )
    Audio In x 2
    Composite In x 2
    S-Video X 1
    Composite Out x 1
    Headphone Out x 1
    RF Connection Input

    Power:

    World Wide Voltage Supply AC 100-240V, 50/60Hz
    Internal Power Supply
    Power Consumption (in Operation): Less than 155W
    Power Consumption (in Standby): Less than 1W


    VIDEO

    Screen Size: 32"
    Resolution: 1,366 x 768
    Dynamic Contrast Ratio: High
    Viewing Angle: 178? / 178?
    Response Time: 8ms
    Backlight: CCFL


    Input & Output(Side)

    HDMI: 3
    composite (AV): 1

    Input & Output(Back)

    RF Input: 1
    Component(Y/Pb/Pr): 2
    HDMI: 2
    PC input (D-sub): 1

    Feature

    Sleep timer
    Clock & on/off timer
    Auto Channel Search
    Auto Power Off
    Auto Volume Leveller
    Game Mode
    TTXT: 1,000P

    System

    Power: AC 100-240V 50/ 60Hz
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  7. Posts : 36
    Windows 10 Pro
    Thread Starter
       #7

    Samsung LA32C450E1XXT 32"

    I just reconnected my 22" Acer monitor. The max resolution is 1920 x 1080. The reason I can fit more on this monitor than the 32" is very clear to me now.

    I still thought there would be a magnifier program that would shrink the desktop though.

    Thanks for the replies.
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