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  1. bobkn
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    tushar4544 said:
    sir I don't buy online on amazon as sellers are not upto mark don't know if they are authorised or not and when I went to retail shop 1060 not available anywhere that's why I am going with 1660 ti I have no option

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    I just need to play 2 games only battlefield 3 and 4 for now only and only no other games

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    I hope that the PC's BIOS likes a 1660ti or 2060 super? will it not support my motherboard?
    I didn't intend amazon.in as a recommendation. I looked at it just because I'm in the US, and unfamiliar with Indian sources. You hadn't mentioned the 1060 previously, so I wondered whether it was a typo.

    I don't know whether your motherboard's BIOS will support a 1660ti or a 2060 Super. The latest BIOS for it dates from 2014, and the changes listed for the various BIOS updates say nothing about graphics card compatibility. All that I can suggest is buying a card from a source with an acceptable return policy.

    Something that I'm surprised has not been touched on: power supply.

    A couple of GTX 1660ti card that I looked at require one 8 pin PCI-E auxiliary power connector. The minimum recommended power supply is 500W.

    For a 2060 Super, depending on vendor, one 8 pin PCI-E, or one 6 pin plus one 8 pin. 550W PSU.

    Does your power supply provide those?
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  3. tushar4544
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    It is not a problem i have seasonic x650 gold certified but if my motherboard does not support gtx1660ti i am dead as it cant be returned and also on amazon it can be returned only if it does not work or dead on arrival thats a big question now what to do
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  4. nIGHTmAYOR
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    tushar4544 said:
    It is not a problem i have seasonic x650 gold certified but if my motherboard does not support gtx1660ti i am dead as it cant be returned and also on amazon it can be returned only if it does not work or dead on arrival thats a big question now what to do
    do a question on amazon america under similar one to the one you intend to buy if it would work with your mother board and state its model and specify that you need the input from someone who did similar setup .
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  6. tushar4544
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    Why will it not work when motherboard has pcie 2.0 x16 slot i dont get it

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    One more thing i got gtx 1650 4gb in june but sold it after 1 month use as i was not completely satisfied
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  7. bobkn
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    tushar4544 said:
    Why will it not work when motherboard has pcie 2.0 x16 slot i dont get it

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    One more thing i got gtx 1650 4gb in june but sold it after 1 month use as i was not completely satisfied
    Having a PCI-E X16 slot is necessary but not sufficient.

    A GTX 1650 is a Turing card. If it ran, then a 1660ti or an RTX card will also run.

    You're good.
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  8. tushar4544
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    Oh thanks for this finally actually battlefield 4 ran better on gtx 1650 but on gtx 770 there was drop in frame rates

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    bobkn said:
    Having a PCI-E X16 slot is necessary but not sufficient.

    A GTX 1650 is a Turing card. If it ran, then a 1660ti or an RTX card will also run.

    You're good.
    also I went to pcpartspicker site and entered all specs with rtx 2060 it was green and said no issues found
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  9. Compumind
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    nIGHTmAYOR said:
    there is no such thing as bottle neck , you can check per game as weather your cpu is within minimum requirements or not
    @tushar4544 -

    Sorry, this is not quite true.

    One of the main things you need to consider when selecting a graphics card is the memory bandwidth of the onboard video RAM.

    Memory bandwidth is basically the speed of the video RAM. It's measured in gigabytes per second (GB/s). The more memory bandwidth you have, the better.
    A video card with higher memory bandwidth can draw faster and draw higher quality images.

    However, there's more to video cards than just memory bandwidth. You also have to consider the drawing speed.

    There's little point in getting a video card with a very fast GPU and limited memory bandwidth because the memory will be the bottleneck.

    Hope this helps. See what your motherboard supports for the graphics slot and go equal or a bit higher in the bandwidth.

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  10. tushar4544
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    Compumind said:
    @tushar4544 -

    Sorry, this is not quite true.

    One of the main things you need to consider when selecting a graphics card is the memory bandwidth of the onboard video RAM.

    Memory bandwidth is basically the speed of the video RAM. It's measured in gigabytes per second (GB/s). The more memory bandwidth you have, the better.
    A video card with higher memory bandwidth can draw faster and draw higher quality images.

    However, there's more to video cards than just memory bandwidth. You also have to consider the drawing speed.

    There's little point in getting a video card with a very fast GPU and limited memory bandwidth because the memory will be the bottleneck.

    Hope this helps. See what your motherboard supports for the graphics slot and go equal or a bit higher in the bandwidth.

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    my motherboard supports pcie x16 2.0 what gpu should I get according to you
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  12. bobkn
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    Compumind said:
    (snip)

    Hope this helps. See what your motherboard supports for the graphics slot and go equal or a bit higher in the bandwidth.

    FWIW
    Could you give more detail on this? It's not obvious how to translate this into quantitative criteria. Particularly for 3D gaming.

    The VRAM bandwidth on even a low-end graphics card (GT 1030, 64 bit bus, 48 GB/s) is greater than the maximum theoretical bandwidth of a PCI-E 3.0 slot (32 GB/s). I doubt that's relevant in itself; I'm not a graphics card engineer, but I expect most of its bandwidth is consumed between the GPU and the VRAM.
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  13. Compumind
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    bobkn said:
    could you give more detail on this? It's not obvious how to translate this into quantitative criteria. Particularly for 3d gaming.
    Simply speaking, it all comes down to performance.
    In the case of the OP, it is far from critical.

    FWIW.
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